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You're trying to make a "both sides" argument about this: a "left-wing rabbit hole" is not equivalent to a "right-wing rabbit hole" in terms of content. There

• coldtea 7y ago
  >You're trying to make a "both sides" argument about this: a "left-wing rabbit hole" is not equivalent to a "right-wing rabbit hole" in terms of content. Really? Why? Because conservative/right = bad, and liberal/left = good?
  • vore 7y ago
    Yes. Is that what you wanted me to say? Also, don't flamebait like this.
    • coldtea 7y ago
      Sorry, you don't get to label whatever you don't like "flamebait". Or is the statement that '"a "left-wing rabbit hole" is not equivalent to a "right-wing rabbit hole"' is not flamebait? I've asked a question, and you even went ahead and answered "yes". You could have gone for nuance and made some differentiation, but you seem to consider everyone in the right as bad. (I'm not even right, I'm old-school leftist and pro-common folk vs elites. I just can't stand hypocrisy and rigged fights).
      • vore 7y ago
        If you want to accuse someone of not going for nuance, maybe don't start with the words "conservative/right = bad, and liberal/left = good" in your post?
        • coldtea 7y ago
          Did I miss something? I wrote that to specifically address the lack of nuance in your statement: "a "left-wing rabbit hole" is not equivalent to a "right-wing rabbit hole" in terms of content" Isn't it ironic to accuse me of the lack of nuance that you've shown, and I've called?
  • lwelyk 7y ago
    Because the deep-right youtubers are white supremacists?
    • coldtea 7y ago
      That's a cyclical argument if I ever saw one - plus adding the weasel term "deep-right". Yeah, white supremacists are scum. Why mention them though? We were talking about right/conservative youtubers here (in fact my question asks exactly about right/conservative). Where does the "deep right" come in? Are the ones shown in the screenshots "white supremacists"? E.g. Shapiro, Watson, Peterson, for a few I recognize. Have they shown any such tendencies? Or does being concervative/right automatically means one can be labelled "deep-right" and thus "white supremacists"?
      • lwelyk 7y ago
        What word would you prefer I use? I was trying to avoid painting the right wiht that brush by using it, but I'll not use that term then. The guy in the article watched a lot of Stefan molyneux videos and he's a white supremacist. That's what the article was about, that's why I brought up white supremacists. You go down that youtube rabbit hole and you just get the "race realists" eventually. That's the topic of the article.
        • username90 7y ago
          I'm not a native English speaker, but isn't there a huge difference between "race realists" and "white supremacists"? Isn't a "race realist" someone who argues that there are significant genetic differences between races while a "white supremacist" is someone who argues that whites should rule over the other races?
          • 0815test 7y ago
            The word "significant" is doing a heck of a lot of work there. Statistically significant? Maybe, but even if that were the case, the actual, plausible consequences are really subtle - they're there of course, but most "race realists" like to talk about other things - go figure! "Significant" in an everyday sense? No way - that's so wildly implausible (keep in mind, we're only talking about what the innate difference might be, after screening out all of the environmentally-caused divergence!) that one can safely say that people who argue that this is what's going on, really are just parroting white-supremacist memes. I.e. they might not be white supremacists themselves, but they're ideologically-possessed memebots who are spreading a white-supremacist memetic infection.