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The right has always hated abortion in recent memory, but I think you've gone too far in saying that most conservatives think abortion is murder. Some of the ex

The right has always hated abortion in recent memory, but I think you've gone too far in saying that most conservatives think abortion is murder. Some of the extreme rightists, usually of the religious variety, think that abortion is murder, but rank and file conservatives will probably not tell you that they a woman who gets an abortion(even illegally) should go to prison for life for first degree murder and conspiracy(with her doctor).

JoeAltmaier 7y ago
Except in those states that have already voted to do so, with a mandate from their constituents. Except for those conservatives.
- oh_sigh 7y ago
  Notice how none of the heartbeat abortion laws actually set the punishment as the same punishment for murder. So clearly those people do not see elective abortion as equivalent to killing an already-born human.
  - gamechangr 7y ago
    "clearly"... isn't as clear as it may first appear. For Example: Plenty of Americans wanted to legalize gay marriages in every state, but proposition 8 lost. My point: People could very well think that abortion ia the equivalent to killing an already born human, but getting a law to pass takes a majority and I think it's fair to say that America is pretty divided on the issue. To get anything to pass, there will be compromises. Maybe conservatives feel stronger than the language of the laws that are being passed. Maybe not, but it's anything but clear. It's easier to say that small extreme groups are exaggerating and then act stunned when trump wins the election. My entire social circle was stunned when he won, because they assumed they knew where conservatives stood.
    - oh_sigh 7y ago
      Prop 8 passed because more people voted for it than against it. If conservatives control the government, and they all believe abortion is murder and should be punished as such - then they can pass a law declaring that. If conservatives control the government, and they still can't get an abortion=murder law passed, and need to form a coalition with other conservatives who simply hate abortion but don't think it is murder, then I think that goes to my point that not all conservatives believe abortion is murder.
gjsman-1000 7y ago
I think very few right-wingers would agree with that (I'm talking non-religious right). However, they would agree that the abortion doctor should experience prison for being a literal serial killer.
- geekone 7y ago
  Do you have any stats on the non-religious right agreeing that a doctor performing an abortion should be in prison for murder?
IWeldMelons 7y ago
The most interesting thing though, is that the Scandinavian Countries (the leftiest in Europe) have the toughest regulations about abortions - the cut-off term AFAIR is only 12 weeks vs 24 in USA.
- username90 7y ago
  Sweden which is the largest Scandinavian country allows it up to 18 weeks with no questions asked, after that you need to apply.

JoeAltmaier 7y ago

Except in those states that have already voted to do so, with a mandate from their constituents. Except for those conservatives.

oh_sigh 7y ago
Notice how none of the heartbeat abortion laws actually set the punishment as the same punishment for murder. So clearly those people do not see elective abortion as equivalent to killing an already-born human.
- gamechangr 7y ago
  "clearly"... isn't as clear as it may first appear. For Example: Plenty of Americans wanted to legalize gay marriages in every state, but proposition 8 lost. My point: People could very well think that abortion ia the equivalent to killing an already born human, but getting a law to pass takes a majority and I think it's fair to say that America is pretty divided on the issue. To get anything to pass, there will be compromises. Maybe conservatives feel stronger than the language of the laws that are being passed. Maybe not, but it's anything but clear. It's easier to say that small extreme groups are exaggerating and then act stunned when trump wins the election. My entire social circle was stunned when he won, because they assumed they knew where conservatives stood.
  - oh_sigh 7y ago
    Prop 8 passed because more people voted for it than against it. If conservatives control the government, and they all believe abortion is murder and should be punished as such - then they can pass a law declaring that. If conservatives control the government, and they still can't get an abortion=murder law passed, and need to form a coalition with other conservatives who simply hate abortion but don't think it is murder, then I think that goes to my point that not all conservatives believe abortion is murder.

gjsman-1000 7y ago

I think very few right-wingers would agree with that (I'm talking non-religious right). However, they would agree that the abortion doctor should experience prison for being a literal serial killer.

geekone 7y ago
Do you have any stats on the non-religious right agreeing that a doctor performing an abortion should be in prison for murder?

IWeldMelons 7y ago

The most interesting thing though, is that the Scandinavian Countries (the leftiest in Europe) have the toughest regulations about abortions - the cut-off term AFAIR is only 12 weeks vs 24 in USA.

username90 7y ago
Sweden which is the largest Scandinavian country allows it up to 18 weeks with no questions asked, after that you need to apply.