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> On July 27 of last year, while firefighters were spread across the state battling fires in the north and south, a Potter Valley rancher working on a hot day i

> On July 27 of last year, while firefighters were spread across the state battling fires in the north and south, a Potter Valley rancher working on a hot day in a bed of waist-high cured grassland drove a stake into the ground and created a spark that grew into the 410,000-acre Ranch fire. Thanks to climate change you can expect more of this... We need to start holding corporations lobbying against climate change resolution accountable for their actions. I say we make them pay for this damage.

tobib 7y ago
> We need to start holding corporations lobbying against climate change resolution accountable for their actions. Or vote for politicians that don't give in to that kind of lobbying. Corporations can lobby all they want, it's the politicians that decide on policy and law.
- Gibbon1 7y ago
  Corporations have abused their power to lobby, it's well past time to take that power away.
  - sokoloff 7y ago
    I think of lobbying as just a particular type of speech, and have an extremely high hurdle for curtailing speech, especially speech whereby the people make requests of government.
  - Joakal 7y ago
    Lobbying is great, you, yourself can talk to your local representative. If lobbying is removed, then you can't legally talk to your local representative. Which means those with a lot of money can afford to illegally 'lobby'. The problem is why are USA politicians so easy to sway with lobbying? Is it voters? Is it the two-party system? Is it that easy to get re-elected? The ease of sway with lobbying is a symptom of something deeper and systemic. IMO, I think it's the two party system (One party away from China!). If you disagree, who's the third most popular party in USA? Europe and many other countries have a sizable third most popular party(!).
joejerryronnie 7y ago
Have we reached the point where literally any malady can be blamed on climate change? Because if so, we have also reached the point where very real effects of climate change can be written off as "the boy who cried wolf".
dang 7y ago
Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar.

tobib 7y ago

> We need to start holding corporations lobbying against climate change resolution accountable for their actions. Or vote for politicians that don't give in to that kind of lobbying. Corporations can lobby all they want, it's the politicians that decide on policy and law.

Gibbon1 7y ago
Corporations have abused their power to lobby, it's well past time to take that power away.
- sokoloff 7y ago
  I think of lobbying as just a particular type of speech, and have an extremely high hurdle for curtailing speech, especially speech whereby the people make requests of government.
- Joakal 7y ago
  Lobbying is great, you, yourself can talk to your local representative. If lobbying is removed, then you can't legally talk to your local representative. Which means those with a lot of money can afford to illegally 'lobby'. The problem is why are USA politicians so easy to sway with lobbying? Is it voters? Is it the two-party system? Is it that easy to get re-elected? The ease of sway with lobbying is a symptom of something deeper and systemic. IMO, I think it's the two party system (One party away from China!). If you disagree, who's the third most popular party in USA? Europe and many other countries have a sizable third most popular party(!).

joejerryronnie 7y ago

Have we reached the point where literally any malady can be blamed on climate change? Because if so, we have also reached the point where very real effects of climate change can be written off as "the boy who cried wolf".

dang 7y ago

Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar.