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If it would give up control of the OS on phones anyway and it would not threaten the US security, why did the US ban Google from providing Android updates to Hu

If it would give up control of the OS on phones anyway and it would not threaten the US security, why did the US ban Google from providing Android updates to Huawei? It is the same logic why the US government bans Huawei, unless the US government ban Huawei for other reasons.

rubbingalcohol 7y ago
Huawei does not play by the rules of other companies in the U.S. market. They steal our tech and sell it back to us for pennies on the dollar. China has been allowed to get away with this shit for decades and now we're supposed to feel sorry for them? Huawei needs to be completely shut out of the U.S. market and Google should be ashamed for working with China. This is a net benefit to U.S. security.
- deepVoid 7y ago
  These accusations are unfounded and unsubstantiated. If they steal your tech, you should sue them in court. We, the US and other nations, run by the laws. You have all the rights to sue whoever steals your tech. Android is open source and available to everyone including Huawei. Huawei has every right to use it. Blatantly accusing someone of stealing with no evidence leads to libel and defamation.
  - rubbingalcohol 7y ago
    Huawei provides a bounty program for stolen trade secrets: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-28/from-bounty-payments-to-espionage-u-s-alleges-chinese-ip-theft https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-28/from-boun... Many U.S. companies have been afraid to report Chinese IP theft due to fears about retaliation and stock price: https://www.npr.org/2019/04/12/711779130/as-china-hacked-u-s-businesses-turned-a-blind-eye https://www.npr.org/2019/04/12/711779130/as-china-hacked-u-s... Years back when I was still freelancing, I worked with a U.S. firm who sold specialized lightweight cases for a popular sporting product. Their Chinese manufacturer stole the tech, ignored the patent, sold the same product to the U.S. market at half the price and put my client out of business. These claims are not unfounded or unsubstantiated. There has been an ongoing pattern of abuse from China for decades and until recently nobody in our government was giving a shit about it.
  - outworlder 7y ago
    > You have all the rights to sue whoever steals your tech If they are not under your jurisdiction, there's a limit on what can be done. Even if you win, your tech is already in other people's hands. > We, the US and other nations, run by the laws. On paper. Other nations don't do as much enforcement as you think – if at all.

rubbingalcohol 7y ago

Huawei does not play by the rules of other companies in the U.S. market. They steal our tech and sell it back to us for pennies on the dollar. China has been allowed to get away with this shit for decades and now we're supposed to feel sorry for them? Huawei needs to be completely shut out of the U.S. market and Google should be ashamed for working with China. This is a net benefit to U.S. security.

deepVoid 7y ago
These accusations are unfounded and unsubstantiated. If they steal your tech, you should sue them in court. We, the US and other nations, run by the laws. You have all the rights to sue whoever steals your tech. Android is open source and available to everyone including Huawei. Huawei has every right to use it. Blatantly accusing someone of stealing with no evidence leads to libel and defamation.
- rubbingalcohol 7y ago
  Huawei provides a bounty program for stolen trade secrets: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-28/from-bounty-payments-to-espionage-u-s-alleges-chinese-ip-theft https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-28/from-boun... Many U.S. companies have been afraid to report Chinese IP theft due to fears about retaliation and stock price: https://www.npr.org/2019/04/12/711779130/as-china-hacked-u-s-businesses-turned-a-blind-eye https://www.npr.org/2019/04/12/711779130/as-china-hacked-u-s... Years back when I was still freelancing, I worked with a U.S. firm who sold specialized lightweight cases for a popular sporting product. Their Chinese manufacturer stole the tech, ignored the patent, sold the same product to the U.S. market at half the price and put my client out of business. These claims are not unfounded or unsubstantiated. There has been an ongoing pattern of abuse from China for decades and until recently nobody in our government was giving a shit about it.
- outworlder 7y ago
  > You have all the rights to sue whoever steals your tech If they are not under your jurisdiction, there's a limit on what can be done. Even if you win, your tech is already in other people's hands. > We, the US and other nations, run by the laws. On paper. Other nations don't do as much enforcement as you think – if at all.