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From what I understand. If you unknowingly ate it your religion doesn't count that as bad. On the topic of legal recourse...I once knew a person who got a piece

From what I understand. If you unknowingly ate it your religion doesn't count that as bad. On the topic of legal recourse...I once knew a person who got a piece of a glove with blood on it on their burger and the bun from a Burger King. A lot of lawyers refused to help her citing "the fear of contracting a disease isn't enough for compensation."

ptah 7y ago
Not for vegans as the harm to the animal will still weigh on one's conscience. It's about the spirit of the rule that you are voluntarily submitting to.
- Mikeb85 7y ago
  So why are they eating in a restaurant that contributes to that harm? Their dollars pay the bills of restaurants that serve meat.
  - ptah 7y ago
    they are tolerant of others choices not intolerant. are you opposed to tolerance
    - Mikeb85 7y ago
      That's quite the jump you made...
    - ptah 7y ago
      not a jump, as you are implying that establishments that are not purely kosher/halaal/vegan but have options should be shunned by practitioners. this is intolerant and a form of pressuring others to conform to one's personal beliefs
  - ptah 7y ago
    by your logic kosher and halaal people should not share restaurants or tables with non-kosher and halaal people
    - duxup 7y ago
      If you're giving money to a restaurant that serves meat is is hard avoid the idea that you're funding a restaurant that contributes to "harm".
    - Mikeb85 7y ago
      Religious Jews and Muslims don't eat in non kosher/halal restaurants because of the lack of properly prepared and sourced meats. There's a specific set of rules surrounding kosher/halal meats, it's not just abstention from pork... I personally don't care where anyone eats, but if a Jew/Muslim eats in a non-kosher/halal restaurant, they're already compromising...
    - ptah 7y ago
      if an establishment wants to cater to both jews/muslims/vegans and non , they should do it properly. there are many that do this already. it is not considered a compromise by the tolerant ones as what others do is not a concern, just personal observance
    - gamblor956 7y ago
      Not even remotely the same thing. Vegans are opposed to eating meat because of animal cruelty, so it is hypocritical for them to eat at a place where 99% of the menu is meat-based. Kosher/halaal is just a specific requirement for preparing meat for consumption. There is nothing hypocritical about Jews/Muslims eating at a restaurant that also serves non-kosher/halaal meat because those restrictions don't apply to people of other religions.
      - Udik 7y ago
        I wouldn't say that's hypocritical. A vegan doesn't eat meat, that's still a good contribution to the cause of animal welfare without the need of isolating oneself from the human community. It's simply preposterous to ask people who have ethical convictions to apply them to the (usually very unpleasant) extreme or being branded incoherent or hypocritical. On the other hand, I don't think it should be a big issue to eat some meat once in a while by mistake. The impact on the general cause is negligible.

ptah 7y ago

Not for vegans as the harm to the animal will still weigh on one's conscience. It's about the spirit of the rule that you are voluntarily submitting to.

Mikeb85 7y ago
So why are they eating in a restaurant that contributes to that harm? Their dollars pay the bills of restaurants that serve meat.
- ptah 7y ago
  they are tolerant of others choices not intolerant. are you opposed to tolerance
  - Mikeb85 7y ago
    That's quite the jump you made...
  - ptah 7y ago
    not a jump, as you are implying that establishments that are not purely kosher/halaal/vegan but have options should be shunned by practitioners. this is intolerant and a form of pressuring others to conform to one's personal beliefs
- ptah 7y ago
  by your logic kosher and halaal people should not share restaurants or tables with non-kosher and halaal people
  - duxup 7y ago
    If you're giving money to a restaurant that serves meat is is hard avoid the idea that you're funding a restaurant that contributes to "harm".
  - Mikeb85 7y ago
    Religious Jews and Muslims don't eat in non kosher/halal restaurants because of the lack of properly prepared and sourced meats. There's a specific set of rules surrounding kosher/halal meats, it's not just abstention from pork... I personally don't care where anyone eats, but if a Jew/Muslim eats in a non-kosher/halal restaurant, they're already compromising...
  - ptah 7y ago
    if an establishment wants to cater to both jews/muslims/vegans and non , they should do it properly. there are many that do this already. it is not considered a compromise by the tolerant ones as what others do is not a concern, just personal observance
  - gamblor956 7y ago
    Not even remotely the same thing. Vegans are opposed to eating meat because of animal cruelty, so it is hypocritical for them to eat at a place where 99% of the menu is meat-based. Kosher/halaal is just a specific requirement for preparing meat for consumption. There is nothing hypocritical about Jews/Muslims eating at a restaurant that also serves non-kosher/halaal meat because those restrictions don't apply to people of other religions.
    - Udik 7y ago
      I wouldn't say that's hypocritical. A vegan doesn't eat meat, that's still a good contribution to the cause of animal welfare without the need of isolating oneself from the human community. It's simply preposterous to ask people who have ethical convictions to apply them to the (usually very unpleasant) extreme or being branded incoherent or hypocritical. On the other hand, I don't think it should be a big issue to eat some meat once in a while by mistake. The impact on the general cause is negligible.