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So in short, they are demonetising/shutting down also the ones trying to counter violent extremism by proper record holding and public accountability?

0815test 7y ago
Yup. It doesn't have to make sense as a policy, y'know; it's all about appearances, public image and not wanting to be associated with "sensitive" stuff of any sort. Documentaries about Nazism, with historical imagery? Exposes of violent extremism? No way, that stuff is way too icky!
- krapp 7y ago
  It's basically the same reason no one but J-List wants to advertise on 4chan.
imglorp 7y ago
It's a fine line between portrayal and promoting, such a fine line that some people might not see where that distinction lies and then mistake one intent for the other. A truly neutral documentary will present the facts and lead you to understand the participants mindset, even if you're not in agreement. I can't imagine some bot will get this right, but I feel we're morally obligated to retain the material or we'll get even worse at telling the difference.
- DarkWiiPlayer 7y ago
  I think the whole point is that some people don't want you to understand what the others think. In 2019 even empathizing with certain people, or trying to follow the logical steps that lead them to their views is considered a sin by some people.
  - 0815test 7y ago
    > In 2019 even empathizing with certain people, or trying to follow the logical steps that lead them to their views is considered a sin by some people. It's almost like we're sliding back to 1935. There is no shared understanding of the fact that empathizing with people - all people, regardless of their diversity - and trying to understand their views is what leads you to the most correct views over time. It's why the modern West won, and its adversaries lost. I'm starting to think that some people really do hate us for this freedom - they want to be told what to think, and find the very idea of intellectual curiosity or openness to be inherently offensive.
    - andrenth 7y ago
      The people who hate this freedom want to tell others what to think.
- mikorym 7y ago
  This reminds me of how satire has a short life cycle. For later generations it becomes difficult to see the difference between the parody and thing "being parodied".

0815test 7y ago

Yup. It doesn't have to make sense as a policy, y'know; it's all about appearances, public image and not wanting to be associated with "sensitive" stuff of any sort. Documentaries about Nazism, with historical imagery? Exposes of violent extremism? No way, that stuff is way too icky!

krapp 7y ago
It's basically the same reason no one but J-List wants to advertise on 4chan.

imglorp 7y ago

It's a fine line between portrayal and promoting, such a fine line that some people might not see where that distinction lies and then mistake one intent for the other. A truly neutral documentary will present the facts and lead you to understand the participants mindset, even if you're not in agreement. I can't imagine some bot will get this right, but I feel we're morally obligated to retain the material or we'll get even worse at telling the difference.

DarkWiiPlayer 7y ago
I think the whole point is that some people don't want you to understand what the others think. In 2019 even empathizing with certain people, or trying to follow the logical steps that lead them to their views is considered a sin by some people.
- 0815test 7y ago
  > In 2019 even empathizing with certain people, or trying to follow the logical steps that lead them to their views is considered a sin by some people. It's almost like we're sliding back to 1935. There is no shared understanding of the fact that empathizing with people - all people, regardless of their diversity - and trying to understand their views is what leads you to the most correct views over time. It's why the modern West won, and its adversaries lost. I'm starting to think that some people really do hate us for this freedom - they want to be told what to think, and find the very idea of intellectual curiosity or openness to be inherently offensive.
  - andrenth 7y ago
    The people who hate this freedom want to tell others what to think.
mikorym 7y ago
This reminds me of how satire has a short life cycle. For later generations it becomes difficult to see the difference between the parody and thing "being parodied".