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The problem is: I have yet to find a person in the fediverse that interests me. I like to read tweets from accomplished people. Successful startup founders for

The problem is: I have yet to find a person in the fediverse that interests me. I like to read tweets from accomplished people. Successful startup founders for example. Is there anybody out there? Any links to people of significance in the fediverse?

djsumdog 7y ago
Drew Dewalt. Richard Stevens (Diesel Sweeties) and wait ... why do you give a shit? Why do people have to be famous to be relevant? Follow random people. Remember 90s AOL chatrooms?
- oblio 7y ago
  > Why do you give a shit? Why do people have to be famous to be relevant? Follow random people. Plan A: Use Twitter (or other media like it). Plan B: Change human nature. I wish you good luck in your endeavour with Plan B, djsumdog! :)
- arcturus17 7y ago
  This comment is vintage open source jihadism.
- scrollaway 7y ago
  > why do you give a shit? Given your tone, I'm going to guess you're not asking the GP a question in earnest. You should try to think about why they might "give a shit". Twitter's userbase is its primary feature. Not its shitty UI, not its awful character limit, and none of the stuff mastodon's various UIs are copying. Its userbase. If you want the fediverse to succeed, you need to understand that. And you need to stop being so accusatory of people who don't use the internet the same way you do, FFS. (And for the record, I want the fediverse to succeed, but I also use Twitter because userbase)
  - StudentStuff 7y ago
    I don't want the fediverse to "succeed", frankly its the only space for us LGBTQ+ to not be harassed, reply guyed, and screen-capped online that isn't a corporate hellhole. Edit: "Success" in our current world seems to be defined as the transition Reddit has gone through, where the userbase has exploded, its eaten Facebook's lunch to a fair degree, but the quality of discourse and interaction has dropped like a rock. I've stopped using Reddit, and such a change would kill my use of the fediverse.
    - scrollaway 7y ago
      The person I'm replying to clearly does. Nethertheless, if the usefulness of something depends on it failing, something's wrong.
      - StudentStuff 7y ago
        The person your replying to explicitly states that you should follow random people off main (the federated timeline) and have a sense of wanderlust rather than following a handful of #thoughtfluencers.
        scrollaway 7y ago
        Please see earlier reply: stop being so accusatory of people who don't use the internet (or live their life) the same way you do. Mock them all you want, in private. Don't bully people because they take selfies, buy tourist gadgets, or follow people you're too good for.
        StudentStuff 7y ago
        Your really projecting here, but you do you!
        urbanjunkie 7y ago
        What a weak-ass response. If you can't deal with adult conversation, fuck off and cry elsewhere.
- scarejunba 7y ago
  Because the whole point is that I get insights from people I admire, man. I want to listen to John Carmack, not some random fool. _I'm_ some random fool and if I wanted those opinions I can cook them up myself.
StudentStuff 7y ago
Avoid the fediverse please, the point is to have a more humane environment, not follow #thoughtfluencers. If you do join choose your instance wisely, beware that many instances block mastodon.social, freespeechextremist.com and similar for being hot messes that have no moderation. The latter instance in particular has a very persistent hellthread spambot problem, where bots sling nudes without content warnings at people constantly.
- jeena 7y ago
  Or just host your own instance where you yourself decide what you want to see or not see, and what you want to write or not to write.
  - StudentStuff 7y ago
    OP describes how they like having content from the famous spoon fed to them. They won't get that experience in most of the fediverse, and the dev teams of the various software (Mastodon, Pleroma, Rustodon, etc) aren't optimizing for it. Better for them to stick to a platform that can feed the famous and techbro gruel to them by the shovelful.
navigatesol 7y ago
>I like to read tweets from accomplished people. Successful startup founders for example. You can't get your Startup Founder porn from here or one of the other umpteen social sites? 60% of all social media seems to be from "successful founders" or "influencers". Hard to imagine anyone finds a dearth of that stuff.
A2017U1 7y ago
Maybe the real problem is people of "significance" have no simple way of duplicating their posts there? Many seem to desire the biggest audience possible.
- MaxBarraclough 7y ago
  The indie web folks have thought about this. Relevant reading: Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere [ https://indieweb.org/POSSE https://indieweb.org/POSSE ] Publish Elsewhere, Syndicate (to your) Own Site [ https://indieweb.org/PESOS https://indieweb.org/PESOS ]
nroah 7y ago
>I like to read tweets from accomplished people. Honestly that's pretty pathetic.
reitanqild 7y ago
Drew DeWalt is there and a number of others, especially the creators of the fediverse like Eugene and others ;-) FWIW you can also use an account on i.e. Mastodon to follow twitter users. I suddenly realized because I was following a twitter users through a gateway, probably because someone had boosted a tweet from that account sometime and I had followed based on that. That should take care of following at least.
- aquova 7y ago
  I didn't realize this was a feature, and I haven't been able to find any information on how to follow Twitter users in this way. How do you go about doing it? If I can follow select Twitter users on Mastodon, that would really incentivize me to use it further.
  - Kye 7y ago
    This isn't an official feature. People run bots to syndicate tweets. Some people use crossposters.
- giancarlostoro 7y ago
  Mind sharing more information on this? I have a Mastodon account but never even noticed this.
fenwick67 7y ago
If you want influencers, Mastodon isn't for you. The fediverse is for humans, not celebrities.
- nerdponx 7y ago
  Unfortunately, a lot of people do. In order to obtain the critical mass you need for a functioning social network, you need content that a lot of people will want to look at. In this case, that means influencers.
  - Kye 7y ago
    I don't know what your basis is for this assertion, but it's not true in the case of Mastodon. It functions just fine. I don't need some random checkmark bearer on there to enjoy my little corner of the fediverse. The instance I'm on covers its costs with a Patreon. That's true of most I interact with. There is no need for massive scale. Only ad-supported centralized services require that to function. Not everyone has eating the world as a goal. Lance Ulanoff didn't understand this when he declared Mastodon DOA two years ago because he couldn't find William Shatner, and people continue to make the same mistake. I don't want to follow William Shatner or Lance Ulanoff, so they can stay on Twitter with people who do.
    - nerdponx 7y ago
      That's for you. If your goal is to have Mastodon "catch on" and have people transition away from Twitter en masse, then yes, you need William Shatner on Mastodon.
      - Kye 7y ago
        Okay. That's not my goal. I don't who has that as a goal. Is it your goal? Maybe you should talk to Shatner about Mastodon. He's fairly responsive on Twitter. Even the main Mastodon project instance is funded by a Patreon. I don't think Eugen would complain if he had a few more users, but growth doesn't seem to be the #1 goal. Only the tech press and its target audience seems to care about how fast Mastodon grows. They are free to start a growth-focused instance. The instance I'm on has 800+ active users. The numbers on closely related instances are probably similar. That's plenty.

djsumdog 7y ago

Drew Dewalt. Richard Stevens (Diesel Sweeties) and wait ... why do you give a shit? Why do people have to be famous to be relevant? Follow random people. Remember 90s AOL chatrooms?

oblio 7y ago
> Why do you give a shit? Why do people have to be famous to be relevant? Follow random people. Plan A: Use Twitter (or other media like it). Plan B: Change human nature. I wish you good luck in your endeavour with Plan B, djsumdog! :)
arcturus17 7y ago
This comment is vintage open source jihadism.
scrollaway 7y ago
> why do you give a shit? Given your tone, I'm going to guess you're not asking the GP a question in earnest. You should try to think about why they might "give a shit". Twitter's userbase is its primary feature. Not its shitty UI, not its awful character limit, and none of the stuff mastodon's various UIs are copying. Its userbase. If you want the fediverse to succeed, you need to understand that. And you need to stop being so accusatory of people who don't use the internet the same way you do, FFS. (And for the record, I want the fediverse to succeed, but I also use Twitter because userbase)
- StudentStuff 7y ago
  I don't want the fediverse to "succeed", frankly its the only space for us LGBTQ+ to not be harassed, reply guyed, and screen-capped online that isn't a corporate hellhole. Edit: "Success" in our current world seems to be defined as the transition Reddit has gone through, where the userbase has exploded, its eaten Facebook's lunch to a fair degree, but the quality of discourse and interaction has dropped like a rock. I've stopped using Reddit, and such a change would kill my use of the fediverse.
  - scrollaway 7y ago
    The person I'm replying to clearly does. Nethertheless, if the usefulness of something depends on it failing, something's wrong.
    - StudentStuff 7y ago
      The person your replying to explicitly states that you should follow random people off main (the federated timeline) and have a sense of wanderlust rather than following a handful of #thoughtfluencers.
      - scrollaway 7y ago
        Please see earlier reply: stop being so accusatory of people who don't use the internet (or live their life) the same way you do. Mock them all you want, in private. Don't bully people because they take selfies, buy tourist gadgets, or follow people you're too good for.
        StudentStuff 7y ago
        Your really projecting here, but you do you!
        urbanjunkie 7y ago
        What a weak-ass response. If you can't deal with adult conversation, fuck off and cry elsewhere.
scarejunba 7y ago
Because the whole point is that I get insights from people I admire, man. I want to listen to John Carmack, not some random fool. _I'm_ some random fool and if I wanted those opinions I can cook them up myself.

StudentStuff 7y ago

Avoid the fediverse please, the point is to have a more humane environment, not follow #thoughtfluencers. If you do join choose your instance wisely, beware that many instances block mastodon.social, freespeechextremist.com and similar for being hot messes that have no moderation. The latter instance in particular has a very persistent hellthread spambot problem, where bots sling nudes without content warnings at people constantly.

jeena 7y ago
Or just host your own instance where you yourself decide what you want to see or not see, and what you want to write or not to write.
- StudentStuff 7y ago
  OP describes how they like having content from the famous spoon fed to them. They won't get that experience in most of the fediverse, and the dev teams of the various software (Mastodon, Pleroma, Rustodon, etc) aren't optimizing for it. Better for them to stick to a platform that can feed the famous and techbro gruel to them by the shovelful.

navigatesol 7y ago

>I like to read tweets from accomplished people. Successful startup founders for example. You can't get your Startup Founder porn from here or one of the other umpteen social sites? 60% of all social media seems to be from "successful founders" or "influencers". Hard to imagine anyone finds a dearth of that stuff.

A2017U1 7y ago

Maybe the real problem is people of "significance" have no simple way of duplicating their posts there? Many seem to desire the biggest audience possible.

MaxBarraclough 7y ago
The indie web folks have thought about this. Relevant reading: Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere [ https://indieweb.org/POSSE https://indieweb.org/POSSE ] Publish Elsewhere, Syndicate (to your) Own Site [ https://indieweb.org/PESOS https://indieweb.org/PESOS ]

nroah 7y ago

>I like to read tweets from accomplished people. Honestly that's pretty pathetic.

reitanqild 7y ago

Drew DeWalt is there and a number of others, especially the creators of the fediverse like Eugene and others ;-) FWIW you can also use an account on i.e. Mastodon to follow twitter users. I suddenly realized because I was following a twitter users through a gateway, probably because someone had boosted a tweet from that account sometime and I had followed based on that. That should take care of following at least.

aquova 7y ago
I didn't realize this was a feature, and I haven't been able to find any information on how to follow Twitter users in this way. How do you go about doing it? If I can follow select Twitter users on Mastodon, that would really incentivize me to use it further.
- Kye 7y ago
  This isn't an official feature. People run bots to syndicate tweets. Some people use crossposters.
giancarlostoro 7y ago
Mind sharing more information on this? I have a Mastodon account but never even noticed this.

fenwick67 7y ago

If you want influencers, Mastodon isn't for you. The fediverse is for humans, not celebrities.

nerdponx 7y ago
Unfortunately, a lot of people do. In order to obtain the critical mass you need for a functioning social network, you need content that a lot of people will want to look at. In this case, that means influencers.
- Kye 7y ago
  I don't know what your basis is for this assertion, but it's not true in the case of Mastodon. It functions just fine. I don't need some random checkmark bearer on there to enjoy my little corner of the fediverse. The instance I'm on covers its costs with a Patreon. That's true of most I interact with. There is no need for massive scale. Only ad-supported centralized services require that to function. Not everyone has eating the world as a goal. Lance Ulanoff didn't understand this when he declared Mastodon DOA two years ago because he couldn't find William Shatner, and people continue to make the same mistake. I don't want to follow William Shatner or Lance Ulanoff, so they can stay on Twitter with people who do.
  - nerdponx 7y ago
    That's for you. If your goal is to have Mastodon "catch on" and have people transition away from Twitter en masse, then yes, you need William Shatner on Mastodon.
    - Kye 7y ago
      Okay. That's not my goal. I don't who has that as a goal. Is it your goal? Maybe you should talk to Shatner about Mastodon. He's fairly responsive on Twitter. Even the main Mastodon project instance is funded by a Patreon. I don't think Eugen would complain if he had a few more users, but growth doesn't seem to be the #1 goal. Only the tech press and its target audience seems to care about how fast Mastodon grows. They are free to start a growth-focused instance. The instance I'm on has 800+ active users. The numbers on closely related instances are probably similar. That's plenty.