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Huh. Didn't know that. The firearm thing makes a lot of sense. I left out the statistic that mentioned in 2017, firearms accounted for 50.57% of all suicide de

Huh. Didn't know that. The firearm thing makes a lot of sense. I left out the statistic that mentioned in 2017, firearms accounted for 50.57% of all suicide deaths. Didn't want to get misconstrued because I support the 2nd amendment and people like to use this fact as ammunition against it. But now I would like to see a breakdown of that statistic by gender, to see how many firearm-related suicides were men vs women.

js2 7y ago
The 4th is protection from unreasonable searches and seizures. I assume you meant the 2nd. I'm curious what the breakdown is in Japan where suicide rate is high but firearms virtually non-existant. However, I understand suicide statistics from there may be unreliable.
- soulofmischief 7y ago
  Wow that's an embarrassing typo. Thanks for catching that. > I understand suicide statistics from there may be unreliable. Why is that? I know suicide rates are high there, but isn't there information to glean from it?
  - foota 7y ago
    My guess would be social stigma.
- getoj 7y ago
  Government stats for Japan are here[1]. While there is a stigma around suicide here (particularly families wanting a death to be 'accidental'), I don't think it's common enough to really affect the statistics. To quote the source: "For men, the most common method is hanging (首つり, 69.3%), followed by jumping (飛降り, 8.8%), and suffocation by burning charcoal or a similar substance (練炭等, 7.3%), and for women the most common method is hanging (59.8%), followed by jumping (14.2%) and drowning (入水, 6.3%)." For both sexes, jumping appears to be significantly more common for children under 19 than other groups. Train jumping (飛込み) is much less common than you might think, but is common for the "age undermined" (不詳) group (men 14.3%, women 42.9%), presumably because the remains are hard to identify. [1] https://www.mhlw.go.jp/wp/hakusyo/jisatsu/18/dl/1-6.pdf https://www.mhlw.go.jp/wp/hakusyo/jisatsu/18/dl/1-6.pdf (page 30)
  - js2 7y ago
    Thanks for providing this. It's the sort of info that's virtually impossible to find as someone who doesn't speak Japanese. (I tried and only found sources that weren't official or were overly general like WHO stats.) These all seem like pretty awful ways to die. I don't even know how you go about drowning yourself. I'm surprised medication isn't more common.
  - josinalvo 7y ago
    do you happen to know how the gender gap works in Japan? is it still the case that women try more and men die more? By what ratios?
KptMarchewa 7y ago
Poland has virtually no guns, yet there is 6.7:1 male to female suicide ratio.
- DanBC 7y ago
  But the same thing applies - in Poland men will be chosing more violent methods (such as hanging) while women will be chosing poisoning.

js2 7y ago

The 4th is protection from unreasonable searches and seizures. I assume you meant the 2nd. I'm curious what the breakdown is in Japan where suicide rate is high but firearms virtually non-existant. However, I understand suicide statistics from there may be unreliable.

soulofmischief 7y ago
Wow that's an embarrassing typo. Thanks for catching that. > I understand suicide statistics from there may be unreliable. Why is that? I know suicide rates are high there, but isn't there information to glean from it?
- foota 7y ago
  My guess would be social stigma.
getoj 7y ago
Government stats for Japan are here[1]. While there is a stigma around suicide here (particularly families wanting a death to be 'accidental'), I don't think it's common enough to really affect the statistics. To quote the source: "For men, the most common method is hanging (首つり, 69.3%), followed by jumping (飛降り, 8.8%), and suffocation by burning charcoal or a similar substance (練炭等, 7.3%), and for women the most common method is hanging (59.8%), followed by jumping (14.2%) and drowning (入水, 6.3%)." For both sexes, jumping appears to be significantly more common for children under 19 than other groups. Train jumping (飛込み) is much less common than you might think, but is common for the "age undermined" (不詳) group (men 14.3%, women 42.9%), presumably because the remains are hard to identify. [1] https://www.mhlw.go.jp/wp/hakusyo/jisatsu/18/dl/1-6.pdf https://www.mhlw.go.jp/wp/hakusyo/jisatsu/18/dl/1-6.pdf (page 30)
- js2 7y ago
  Thanks for providing this. It's the sort of info that's virtually impossible to find as someone who doesn't speak Japanese. (I tried and only found sources that weren't official or were overly general like WHO stats.) These all seem like pretty awful ways to die. I don't even know how you go about drowning yourself. I'm surprised medication isn't more common.
- josinalvo 7y ago
  do you happen to know how the gender gap works in Japan? is it still the case that women try more and men die more? By what ratios?

KptMarchewa 7y ago

Poland has virtually no guns, yet there is 6.7:1 male to female suicide ratio.

DanBC 7y ago
But the same thing applies - in Poland men will be chosing more violent methods (such as hanging) while women will be chosing poisoning.