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How is this different than someone saying "I think feminists are trash, and feminists who disagree with me should take time to understand what I mean." In othe

How is this different than someone saying "I think feminists are trash, and feminists who disagree with me should take time to understand what I mean." In other words, do you understand why what you are saying is victim blaming?

Miner49er 7y ago
Because feminists are the victim fighting for equal rights. In racism, white people are not the victim, they are the creators of racism and are the people still allowing racism to exist. They are the attacker.
- tathougies 7y ago
  Just because one was the victim in the past, does not mean one is not the perpetrators today. This just further indicates that you should have taken the time to listen to what someone might have to say, rather than strawmanning.
  - Miner49er 7y ago
    Of course that's true that they could no longer be the victim, but that's not the case here. Woman still are treated unequally many ways in society, and white people are still privelaged over black people (for example) in society. There's plenty of facts and statistics to back both of those statements up. Look at the wage gap between men and women and the average wealth of black vs white families, for a couple of examples.
    - tathougies 7y ago
      > Look at the wage gap between men and women and the average wealth of black vs white families, for a couple of examples. These are correlations not causations. But their truth values are, ultimately, completely irrelevant to the point being made, which is that you yourself have no desire to 'listen', but rather are attempting to simply have your quasi-religious propaganda imposed on anyone who disagrees with you, under the guise of rationality.
      - Miner49er 7y ago
        I fail to see how I'm the irrational one here. I've backed up what I'm saying with some statistics. You on the other hand, have not. You also have claimed that I was strawmanning when I wasn't, and you are now resorting to personal attacks.

Miner49er 7y ago

Because feminists are the victim fighting for equal rights. In racism, white people are not the victim, they are the creators of racism and are the people still allowing racism to exist. They are the attacker.

tathougies 7y ago
Just because one was the victim in the past, does not mean one is not the perpetrators today. This just further indicates that you should have taken the time to listen to what someone might have to say, rather than strawmanning.
- Miner49er 7y ago
  Of course that's true that they could no longer be the victim, but that's not the case here. Woman still are treated unequally many ways in society, and white people are still privelaged over black people (for example) in society. There's plenty of facts and statistics to back both of those statements up. Look at the wage gap between men and women and the average wealth of black vs white families, for a couple of examples.
  - tathougies 7y ago
    > Look at the wage gap between men and women and the average wealth of black vs white families, for a couple of examples. These are correlations not causations. But their truth values are, ultimately, completely irrelevant to the point being made, which is that you yourself have no desire to 'listen', but rather are attempting to simply have your quasi-religious propaganda imposed on anyone who disagrees with you, under the guise of rationality.
    - Miner49er 7y ago
      I fail to see how I'm the irrational one here. I've backed up what I'm saying with some statistics. You on the other hand, have not. You also have claimed that I was strawmanning when I wasn't, and you are now resorting to personal attacks.