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> and have growing anti-intellectual culture. From this thread, it would appear to be baked-in as a function of self-selection. One might argue intellectuals

> and have growing anti-intellectual culture. From this thread, it would appear to be baked-in as a function of self-selection. One might argue intellectuals have an obligation to procreate.

AlexandrB 7y ago
> One might argue intellectuals have an obligation to procreate. They already did and their kids are building the world's largest and most powerful surveillance and propaganda systems at Facebook and Google. Unfortunately the "G" in FAANG does not stand for "Greenpeace".
tsbertalan 7y ago
I think that intelligence is much more environmentally driven rather than genetic, though I don't have any proper references for that. I would argue that, in a properly functioning society, intellectualism, assuming it's strongly tied to wealth, wouldn't really be heritable beyond one generation. Combating anti-intellectualism as a trend is probably more complicated than just trying to get the existing educated to have more children then the existing uneducated.
- evidenceoraxiom 7y ago
  > I think that intelligence is much more environmentally driven rather than genetic, though I don't have any proper references for that. Long time lurker, but since you look like you could use a good source I made an account. Here[0] is a well-referenced Wikipedia page, so that you can base your understanding on fact in the future (something we all should aim for if we want to know the truth). The key quote from the article intro is > The heritability of IQ for adults is between 57% and 73%[6] with some more-recent estimates as high as 80%[7] and 86%.[8] IQ goes from being weakly correlated with genetics, for children, to being strongly correlated with genetics for late teens and adults. This means that opportunity for intelligence is very heritable, like height. Sad for those of us who hoped we were blank slates with equal chances of success in the information age. My personal take away is that the world always has been brutal, so "fear thy creator", and get your act together with the few IQ points you were given. I hope all the different people of our planet with can succeed in creating prosperous societies despite this, like westerners and east Asians have today. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ

> and have growing anti-intellectual culture. From this thread, it would appear to be baked-in as a function of self-selection. One might argue intellectuals have an obligation to procreate.

AlexandrB 7y ago

> One might argue intellectuals have an obligation to procreate. They already did and their kids are building the world's largest and most powerful surveillance and propaganda systems at Facebook and Google. Unfortunately the "G" in FAANG does not stand for "Greenpeace".

tsbertalan 7y ago

I think that intelligence is much more environmentally driven rather than genetic, though I don't have any proper references for that. I would argue that, in a properly functioning society, intellectualism, assuming it's strongly tied to wealth, wouldn't really be heritable beyond one generation. Combating anti-intellectualism as a trend is probably more complicated than just trying to get the existing educated to have more children then the existing uneducated.

evidenceoraxiom 7y ago
> I think that intelligence is much more environmentally driven rather than genetic, though I don't have any proper references for that. Long time lurker, but since you look like you could use a good source I made an account. Here[0] is a well-referenced Wikipedia page, so that you can base your understanding on fact in the future (something we all should aim for if we want to know the truth). The key quote from the article intro is > The heritability of IQ for adults is between 57% and 73%[6] with some more-recent estimates as high as 80%[7] and 86%.[8] IQ goes from being weakly correlated with genetics, for children, to being strongly correlated with genetics for late teens and adults. This means that opportunity for intelligence is very heritable, like height. Sad for those of us who hoped we were blank slates with equal chances of success in the information age. My personal take away is that the world always has been brutal, so "fear thy creator", and get your act together with the few IQ points you were given. I hope all the different people of our planet with can succeed in creating prosperous societies despite this, like westerners and east Asians have today. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ