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"To say it is the natural way of things is, in my eyes, completely ignorant. If that were the case we wouldn't have seen numerous people's revolts throughout th

"To say it is the natural way of things is, in my eyes, completely ignorant. If that were the case we wouldn't have seen numerous people's revolts throughout the entirety of human history [1]." - It is natural, people want authoritarianism naturally. They just want the authoritarian rules or person to follow their point of view or agenda. Look at the list and see how many replaced one authoritarian with another authoritarian. Or the resolution was authoritarian. "You say both say people want one thing, while contradicting that statement and saying people have different points of views and agendas - so we don't all want one thing? It could well be most or a few or some or a minority want authoritarianism; but the only constant I can see in governments throughout history and modern society is their inconsistency." -- I never said everyone wanted one thing. My comment was that most people would prefer a more authoritarian government that agreed with their point of view or agenda.

Aromasin 7y ago
I don't have time to argue the point much further, but I will pick at semantics because they completely change the tone of the argument when it comes to politics, and is why I replied in the first place. >People do not want freedom and democracy, they want authoritarianism that favor their point of view or agenda Those were your words, not- >I never said everyone wanted one thing. The way I read it, you made the implication that everyone - see "People" - don't really want freedom or democracy. Nowhere was "most people" or "some people" or some other semi-quantifiable variable used to convey your meaning. We can argue all day about what percentage of people want one form of governance over another, and don't get me wrong while I don't agree it's "most" I'd say a decent amount do prefer authoritarianism of their own taste over democracy, to say "people" out-right is what changes your argument from a discussion starter to hyperbolic ignorance.

Aromasin 7y ago

I don't have time to argue the point much further, but I will pick at semantics because they completely change the tone of the argument when it comes to politics, and is why I replied in the first place. >People do not want freedom and democracy, they want authoritarianism that favor their point of view or agenda Those were your words, not- >I never said everyone wanted one thing. The way I read it, you made the implication that everyone - see "People" - don't really want freedom or democracy. Nowhere was "most people" or "some people" or some other semi-quantifiable variable used to convey your meaning. We can argue all day about what percentage of people want one form of governance over another, and don't get me wrong while I don't agree it's "most" I'd say a decent amount do prefer authoritarianism of their own taste over democracy, to say "people" out-right is what changes your argument from a discussion starter to hyperbolic ignorance.