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I hate what is happening here but I'm not sure what can be done about it. It seems that security/ whistleblowers etc will always have a lower importance than th

by robkop 7y ago

I hate what is happening here but I'm not sure what can be done about it. It seems that security/ whistleblowers etc will always have a lower importance than the major campaign issues of the day. And because of this it seems like no party should ever be bothered to push for what's in the voters best interests on these topics. Instead it only makes sense for politicians to push for what is personally best for them in these cases. I'm not sure what the solution to this is or even if I fully understand the problem but this appears fundamentally wrong to me.

marcus_holmes 7y ago
Because the last election was won "miraculously" by the party deliberately having a policy of not having a policy on anything, I think the next couple of decades will see more of the same. All the parties will stop publishing any kind of policy details, and it'll be fought on personalities and "how good is security?". We're basically waiting for the boomers to die off at this point, before being able to fix the shit they left behind.
- twanvl 7y ago
  > We're basically waiting for the boomers to die off at this point, before being able to fix the shit they left behind. Where does idea that all problems in modern society are the fault of the baby boomers come from? We are talking about a very diverse group of people, with very diverse sets of ideas, as are the generations after them.
  - maxxxxx 7y ago
    I think the baby boomer generation did a lot of damage by eroding social systems and piling up deficits. But the question is whether whoever follows will do any better.
- rchaud 7y ago
  Boomers dying off won't automatically create large-scale changes you're expecting. I've been hearing that social conservatism will decrease once the boomers are gone, but that doesn't explain why thousands of young men get turned on to highly conservative views on the Internet by somebody looking into a webcam. As long as humanity exists, there will be other humans who can and will exploit their fears and insecurities to gain power and influence for themselves.
- maxxxxx 7y ago
  “We're basically waiting for the boomers to die off at this point, before being able to fix the shit they left behind.” Don’t rely on the next generation to be any better. The brightest and best of the new generation are busy selling ads and creating total surveillance systems. I don’t see much improvement.
- zmmmmm 7y ago
  There's an alternative possibility that the Labor party reflects on its strategy and realises that shadowing every single thing the government did on national security didn't actually win them any credit with voters in the end.
  - marcus_holmes 7y ago
    we can hope ;)

by robkop 7y ago

marcus_holmes 7y ago

Because the last election was won "miraculously" by the party deliberately having a policy of not having a policy on anything, I think the next couple of decades will see more of the same. All the parties will stop publishing any kind of policy details, and it'll be fought on personalities and "how good is security?". We're basically waiting for the boomers to die off at this point, before being able to fix the shit they left behind.

twanvl 7y ago
> We're basically waiting for the boomers to die off at this point, before being able to fix the shit they left behind. Where does idea that all problems in modern society are the fault of the baby boomers come from? We are talking about a very diverse group of people, with very diverse sets of ideas, as are the generations after them.
- maxxxxx 7y ago
  I think the baby boomer generation did a lot of damage by eroding social systems and piling up deficits. But the question is whether whoever follows will do any better.
rchaud 7y ago
Boomers dying off won't automatically create large-scale changes you're expecting. I've been hearing that social conservatism will decrease once the boomers are gone, but that doesn't explain why thousands of young men get turned on to highly conservative views on the Internet by somebody looking into a webcam. As long as humanity exists, there will be other humans who can and will exploit their fears and insecurities to gain power and influence for themselves.
maxxxxx 7y ago
“We're basically waiting for the boomers to die off at this point, before being able to fix the shit they left behind.” Don’t rely on the next generation to be any better. The brightest and best of the new generation are busy selling ads and creating total surveillance systems. I don’t see much improvement.
zmmmmm 7y ago
There's an alternative possibility that the Labor party reflects on its strategy and realises that shadowing every single thing the government did on national security didn't actually win them any credit with voters in the end.
- marcus_holmes 7y ago
  we can hope ;)