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It looks nice but it being Electron and subscription-based means I won't buy it. I'm pretty happy with Quiver.

by 00deadbeef 7y ago

jaden 7y ago
https://happenapps.com https://happenapps.com in case anyone else, like me, wanted to check it out. It's Mac only.
- 0xDEEPFAC 7y ago
  Mac only w/ electron? What is the point of using a slow fake-webrowser if not for compatibility?
  - durub 7y ago
    No, Quiver doesn't use Electron and is Mac only. Inkdrop is cross-platform.
    - 0xDEEPFAC 7y ago
      It does use electron. "At that time, I was new to develop apps on top of Electron and ReactJS. As Inkdrop grew, I have learned a lot of good practices from it. I found that it can be improved much better in terms of implementation."
      - 00deadbeef 7y ago
        Inkdrop uses Electron but Quiver doesn't.
0xDEEPFAC 7y ago
amen, this app just serves as another example of nobody wanting to make true native desktop stuff anymore. Thing is its easier than ever with QML and C++... : ( https://medium.com/commitlog/electron-is-cancer-b066108e6c32 https://medium.com/commitlog/electron-is-cancer-b066108e6c32
Pepe1vo 7y ago
I get the sentiment against Electron, there are horribly bloated applications out there which are a direct consequence of how (badly) Electron was built and designed. However, this particular application appears to work exactly as intended and uses all of 150MB of RAM and 0.1% CPU on my (admittedly quite beefy) laptop. Maybe, just maybe, this is actually a pretty well-built application? I understand if someone won't use this program because it doesn't scratch their particular itch. But, not using something solely because of the techniques used to build it, seems a bit elitist to me.
- sorenjan 7y ago
  Windows 98 needed 16 MB RAM and 120-295 MB harddrive storage. Why would a note taking app need more memory than an entire OS? Because browsers are their own OS pretty much, and shipping one per application is not ideal.
  - bspammer 7y ago
    Because aesthetics do matter, and if you want something that looks nicer than Windows 98 and have the RAM to spare then why not?
  - dangus 7y ago
    Can we stop this kind of non-constructive criticism? Nobody here would ever choose to voluntarily go back to Windows 98 or anything similar from that era. Using this same logic we'd be demanding that Netflix run over a 56K modem. It's a completely not realistic. I would very much like to see your cloud syncing solo-developed markdown note taking app with HTML rendering available for Mac, Windows, Linux, Android, and iOS that uses under 16 MB of RAM. Or maybe you could point me to something of the sort that existed in 1998. I'm sure you've got a quick link to that so I'm looking forward to trying it out.
  - ken 7y ago
    I made a new default Mac application in Xcode just now and ran it. It settled in at 17.1 MB, according to Activity Monitor's Memory tab. It's not "a note taking app". It's every app. Welcome to 2019.

It looks nice but it being Electron and subscription-based means I won't buy it. I'm pretty happy with Quiver.

jaden 7y ago

https://happenapps.com https://happenapps.com in case anyone else, like me, wanted to check it out. It's Mac only.

0xDEEPFAC 7y ago
Mac only w/ electron? What is the point of using a slow fake-webrowser if not for compatibility?
- durub 7y ago
  No, Quiver doesn't use Electron and is Mac only. Inkdrop is cross-platform.
  - 0xDEEPFAC 7y ago
    It does use electron. "At that time, I was new to develop apps on top of Electron and ReactJS. As Inkdrop grew, I have learned a lot of good practices from it. I found that it can be improved much better in terms of implementation."
    - 00deadbeef 7y ago
      Inkdrop uses Electron but Quiver doesn't.

0xDEEPFAC 7y ago

amen, this app just serves as another example of nobody wanting to make true native desktop stuff anymore. Thing is its easier than ever with QML and C++... : ( https://medium.com/commitlog/electron-is-cancer-b066108e6c32 https://medium.com/commitlog/electron-is-cancer-b066108e6c32

Pepe1vo 7y ago

I get the sentiment against Electron, there are horribly bloated applications out there which are a direct consequence of how (badly) Electron was built and designed. However, this particular application appears to work exactly as intended and uses all of 150MB of RAM and 0.1% CPU on my (admittedly quite beefy) laptop. Maybe, just maybe, this is actually a pretty well-built application? I understand if someone won't use this program because it doesn't scratch their particular itch. But, not using something solely because of the techniques used to build it, seems a bit elitist to me.

sorenjan 7y ago
Windows 98 needed 16 MB RAM and 120-295 MB harddrive storage. Why would a note taking app need more memory than an entire OS? Because browsers are their own OS pretty much, and shipping one per application is not ideal.
- bspammer 7y ago
  Because aesthetics do matter, and if you want something that looks nicer than Windows 98 and have the RAM to spare then why not?
- dangus 7y ago
  Can we stop this kind of non-constructive criticism? Nobody here would ever choose to voluntarily go back to Windows 98 or anything similar from that era. Using this same logic we'd be demanding that Netflix run over a 56K modem. It's a completely not realistic. I would very much like to see your cloud syncing solo-developed markdown note taking app with HTML rendering available for Mac, Windows, Linux, Android, and iOS that uses under 16 MB of RAM. Or maybe you could point me to something of the sort that existed in 1998. I'm sure you've got a quick link to that so I'm looking forward to trying it out.
- ken 7y ago
  I made a new default Mac application in Xcode just now and ran it. It settled in at 17.1 MB, according to Activity Monitor's Memory tab. It's not "a note taking app". It's every app. Welcome to 2019.