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I think you read more into my question than what I meant. I was asking literally about the best way to install it was without a system level ruby. Once you hav

by ihuman 7y ago

I think you read more into my question than what I meant. I was asking literally about the best way to install it was without a system level ruby. Once you have homebrew, you can install ruby; but what about before that? Download and install ruby from ruby-lang.org, install homebrew and a brewed ruby, then uninstall the one from ruby-lang.org?

azinman2 7y ago
I’m guessing home brew will end up creating a packaged installer than includes a home brew upgradable ruby
- saagarjha 7y ago
  I'd think a script that you pipe into a shell with admin privileges is more likely ;)
  - anamexis 7y ago
    Same difference, really.
    - saagarjha 7y ago
      No: you can sign and notarize packages.
- rovr138 7y ago
  They already do. The installer is the only thing that uses the system one. Could be ported to ZSH or Python 3.
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protomyth 7y ago
Macports works and has updated versions of ruby.
larkost 7y ago
At least for Python the standard .pkg's available from python.org have always been very useful for me. Especially since you can install as many versions as you want simultaneously since they install in separate folders. As a tester who used to have to keep installs of lots of versions this was very helpful. I should know the situation for Ruby as well... but don't remember anymore.
- sametmax 7y ago
  Yeah I don't get the trend to install it with brew since it's so easy to use the official installer.
  - saagarjha 7y ago
    Package managers will keep your Python up-to-date automatically.
    - sametmax 7y ago
      Sure but it's very rare to update python on the desktop (not on the server). Installing a new version in parallel is common, but once you get a 3.x rolling, you seldom have the need for a 3.x.y unless you encounter a bug or are very security conscious. On the other hand, installing xcode is really a pain.
      - saagarjha 7y ago
        I try to keep the version of Python my personal computer is using up-to-date; I don't think this is a particularly uncommon thing?
        sametmax 7y ago
        It really is. Like backups. Or unit tests. Good pratices != common practices.
olliej 7y ago
Over time I’ve just migrated to using brew for everything. I’m not sure how it differs to macports, etc it’s just the one I always ended up using and it’s now just muscle memory :)
- saagarjha 7y ago
  It differs quite a bit in its core philosophy with regards to how it interacts with the rest of the system and how much customizability it allows.
comex 7y ago
The system Ruby is being deprecated, but not removed in this release. By the time it’s removed, Homebrew will likely have a replacement installation process in place.

by ihuman 7y ago

azinman2 7y ago

I’m guessing home brew will end up creating a packaged installer than includes a home brew upgradable ruby

saagarjha 7y ago
I'd think a script that you pipe into a shell with admin privileges is more likely ;)
- anamexis 7y ago
  Same difference, really.
  - saagarjha 7y ago
    No: you can sign and notarize packages.
rovr138 7y ago
They already do. The installer is the only thing that uses the system one. Could be ported to ZSH or Python 3.

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protomyth 7y ago

Macports works and has updated versions of ruby.

larkost 7y ago

At least for Python the standard .pkg's available from python.org have always been very useful for me. Especially since you can install as many versions as you want simultaneously since they install in separate folders. As a tester who used to have to keep installs of lots of versions this was very helpful. I should know the situation for Ruby as well... but don't remember anymore.

sametmax 7y ago
Yeah I don't get the trend to install it with brew since it's so easy to use the official installer.
- saagarjha 7y ago
  Package managers will keep your Python up-to-date automatically.
  - sametmax 7y ago
    Sure but it's very rare to update python on the desktop (not on the server). Installing a new version in parallel is common, but once you get a 3.x rolling, you seldom have the need for a 3.x.y unless you encounter a bug or are very security conscious. On the other hand, installing xcode is really a pain.
    - saagarjha 7y ago
      I try to keep the version of Python my personal computer is using up-to-date; I don't think this is a particularly uncommon thing?
      - sametmax 7y ago
        It really is. Like backups. Or unit tests. Good pratices != common practices.

olliej 7y ago

Over time I’ve just migrated to using brew for everything. I’m not sure how it differs to macports, etc it’s just the one I always ended up using and it’s now just muscle memory :)

saagarjha 7y ago
It differs quite a bit in its core philosophy with regards to how it interacts with the rest of the system and how much customizability it allows.

comex 7y ago

The system Ruby is being deprecated, but not removed in this release. By the time it’s removed, Homebrew will likely have a replacement installation process in place.