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So... Hetzner bandwidth is $0.00112/GB, almost 18x cheaper than arc.io (https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Traffic/en https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Traffic/e

So... Hetzner bandwidth is $0.00112/GB, almost 18x cheaper than arc.io (https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Traffic/en https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Traffic/en) And Hetzner is a no-nonsense real company that's been around since 1997. Hetzner machines have dedicated 1Gbps connections. Arc.io promises nothing. Arc.io is a faceless company with no track record, no history, and doesn't say how long they've been around. Who would you choose?

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CharlesW 7y ago
Is this an apples-to-apples comparison? Wouldn't it take some work to turn hosting + cheap bandwidth into a fast, reliable* CDN? (*I'm not assuming Arc.io does this, just that "fast" and "reliable" are table-stakes properties of CDNs.)
jaden 7y ago
That's true, but a Hetzner server is only in a single datacenter. A closer comparison might be a CDN service like Cloudflare for free, or https://bunnycdn.com/pricing https://bunnycdn.com/pricing for about $0.01/GB. Both distribute your assets across the globe for reduced latency.
- kitchenkarma 7y ago
  You can use different "cheap" providers, setup nginx reverse proxy with caching and round robin dns.
  - _Codemonkeyism 7y ago
    Or a cheap Anycast DNS provider with domain mapping like DNSMadeEasy.
  - LinuxBender 7y ago
    That is exactly what I do with my hobby sites.
jchw 7y ago
You should probably at least compare to CDN bandwidth. One dedicated server is not exactly a CDN.
PatrolX 7y ago
More importantly the performance of Arc.io website is dreadful. If you're going to sell high-performance then you should at least make your own website perform well. If your website performs well then I'm more likely to believe your story.
- hueving 7y ago
  If you think performance problems mean a bad CDN, you're probably not the target audience.
  - GordonS 7y ago
    I really don't understand this comment - who is the target audience of a CDN product if not those that want to increase performance for local users?
slips 7y ago
What would our technological landscape look like currently if everyone was hostile against new companies? Old doesn't mean good.
- etaioinshrdlu 7y ago
  I don't intend to be mean to new entrants. The crypto/distributed space has an issue with vaporware and not living up to claims. Arc.io has a lot to prove, in other words. I'm hoping users will think twice before using infrastructure that's not ready, or up to par, or not likely to have longevity.
  - weego 7y ago
    That's a very kind interpretation of the space. I'd have gone with confidence tricksters, frauds and charlatans.
- StreamBright 7y ago
  New does not mean good either.
taf2 7y ago
How many different geographic regions can I get a hetzner server?
- etaioinshrdlu 7y ago
  Not many. A couple in Germany and one in Finland. Not exactly a global reach.
paulcarroty 7y ago
Hetzner storage are slow as shit and not reliable, I recommend to avoid it.
- _Codemonkeyism 7y ago
  I found the attached volume storage in their cloud VMs fast enough and the servers with 2 attached SSDs plentiful fast.
- ru999gol 7y ago
  thats such an idiotic thing to say considering they offer dedicated servers with NVMe raid drives.

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CharlesW 7y ago

Is this an apples-to-apples comparison? Wouldn't it take some work to turn hosting + cheap bandwidth into a fast, reliable* CDN? (*I'm not assuming Arc.io does this, just that "fast" and "reliable" are table-stakes properties of CDNs.)

jaden 7y ago

That's true, but a Hetzner server is only in a single datacenter. A closer comparison might be a CDN service like Cloudflare for free, or https://bunnycdn.com/pricing https://bunnycdn.com/pricing for about $0.01/GB. Both distribute your assets across the globe for reduced latency.

kitchenkarma 7y ago
You can use different "cheap" providers, setup nginx reverse proxy with caching and round robin dns.
- _Codemonkeyism 7y ago
  Or a cheap Anycast DNS provider with domain mapping like DNSMadeEasy.
- LinuxBender 7y ago
  That is exactly what I do with my hobby sites.

jchw 7y ago

You should probably at least compare to CDN bandwidth. One dedicated server is not exactly a CDN.

PatrolX 7y ago

More importantly the performance of Arc.io website is dreadful. If you're going to sell high-performance then you should at least make your own website perform well. If your website performs well then I'm more likely to believe your story.

hueving 7y ago
If you think performance problems mean a bad CDN, you're probably not the target audience.
- GordonS 7y ago
  I really don't understand this comment - who is the target audience of a CDN product if not those that want to increase performance for local users?

slips 7y ago

What would our technological landscape look like currently if everyone was hostile against new companies? Old doesn't mean good.

etaioinshrdlu 7y ago
I don't intend to be mean to new entrants. The crypto/distributed space has an issue with vaporware and not living up to claims. Arc.io has a lot to prove, in other words. I'm hoping users will think twice before using infrastructure that's not ready, or up to par, or not likely to have longevity.
- weego 7y ago
  That's a very kind interpretation of the space. I'd have gone with confidence tricksters, frauds and charlatans.
StreamBright 7y ago
New does not mean good either.

taf2 7y ago

How many different geographic regions can I get a hetzner server?

etaioinshrdlu 7y ago
Not many. A couple in Germany and one in Finland. Not exactly a global reach.

paulcarroty 7y ago

Hetzner storage are slow as shit and not reliable, I recommend to avoid it.

_Codemonkeyism 7y ago
I found the attached volume storage in their cloud VMs fast enough and the servers with 2 attached SSDs plentiful fast.
ru999gol 7y ago
thats such an idiotic thing to say considering they offer dedicated servers with NVMe raid drives.