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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20012687 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20012687

dreamcompiler 7y ago
Wow! Great minds...
narag 7y ago
Domain blocking is really useful, but... is it possible to do more? I mean that uBlock Origin and other adblockers can make a more fine-tuned work, cleaning pages much further, like cookies popups or similar useless crap. I had thought of such a service time ago, but would it be legal? If I do it in my private intranet, it shouldn't be a problem. But a service that would remove ads from known webs and serve a clean versions through a proxy could be accused of plagiarism or something like that. Maybe that's because thay only do the domain blocking part.
- tgragnato 7y ago
  It probably has a lot of repercussions on the safe harbor (I guess you’re not a transitory network anymore??), but you should ask a lawyer.. > A service provider shall not be liable for monetary relief, or, except as provided in subsection (j), for injunctive or other equitable relief, for infringement of copyright by reason of the provider’s transmitting, routing, or providing connections for, material through a system or network controlled or operated by or for the service provider, or by reason of the intermediate and transient storage of that material in the course of such transmitting, routing, or providing connections, if [...] (2) the transmission, routing, provision of connections, or storage is carried out through an automatic technical process without selection of the material by the service provider; [...] (5) the material is transmitted through the system or network without modification of its content.
- dreamcompiler 7y ago
  I'm not sure it's even possible to do this on a proxy any more since so many sites do client-side rendering now. You'd have to run the Javascript, see what crap it produces, figure out what Javascript generated the crap, and remove that Javascript. Sounds dangerously close to solving the halting problem. (I presume ublock can do these things because it's sitting at the rendering engine. Proxies don't have that luxury.)
  - narag 7y ago
    I forget how different my Internet experience is from everybody else, without Facebook, Twitter and similar sites that you log in to use.

Wow! Great minds...

Domain blocking is really useful, but... is it possible to do more? I mean that uBlock Origin and other adblockers can make a more fine-tuned work, cleaning pages much further, like cookies popups or similar useless crap. I had thought of such a service time ago, but would it be legal? If I do it in my private intranet, it shouldn't be a problem. But a service that would remove ads from known webs and serve a clean versions through a proxy could be accused of plagiarism or something like that. Maybe that's because thay only do the domain blocking part.

tgragnato 7y ago
It probably has a lot of repercussions on the safe harbor (I guess you’re not a transitory network anymore??), but you should ask a lawyer.. > A service provider shall not be liable for monetary relief, or, except as provided in subsection (j), for injunctive or other equitable relief, for infringement of copyright by reason of the provider’s transmitting, routing, or providing connections for, material through a system or network controlled or operated by or for the service provider, or by reason of the intermediate and transient storage of that material in the course of such transmitting, routing, or providing connections, if [...] (2) the transmission, routing, provision of connections, or storage is carried out through an automatic technical process without selection of the material by the service provider; [...] (5) the material is transmitted through the system or network without modification of its content.
dreamcompiler 7y ago
I'm not sure it's even possible to do this on a proxy any more since so many sites do client-side rendering now. You'd have to run the Javascript, see what crap it produces, figure out what Javascript generated the crap, and remove that Javascript. Sounds dangerously close to solving the halting problem. (I presume ublock can do these things because it's sitting at the rendering engine. Proxies don't have that luxury.)
- narag 7y ago
  I forget how different my Internet experience is from everybody else, without Facebook, Twitter and similar sites that you log in to use.