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Are these allowed to fly over my property? And if so, am I allowed to shoot it down? Asking for a friend.

i_am_nomad 7y ago
If your friend lives anywhere that’s not rural, then no, she probably isn’t allowed to shoot it down, nor should she; bullets and buckshot could end up coming down on someone else. But, if she uses a satellite TV dish to aim the output of a magnetron at that drone, well, that’s another story.
mikece 7y ago
Your property goes from ground level to 200 feet; above that it's effectively the domain of the FAA. I would imagine the drones would have to fly between 200 and 500 feet until directly over the delivery target otherwise they would be either violating more restricted FAA airspace or trespassing on private property (under the 200 foot boundary).
hathawsh 7y ago
A much more interesting attack is GPS spoofing. What is Amazon (and everyone else) doing to solve that? GPS spoofing is fairly easy using SDR. https://hackaday.com/2012/07/01/spoofing-gps-and-getting-your-own-uav/ https://hackaday.com/2012/07/01/spoofing-gps-and-getting-you... https://www.rtl-sdr.com/tag/gps-spoofing/ https://www.rtl-sdr.com/tag/gps-spoofing/
- kgilpin 7y ago
  Maybe they will just prosecute people who do that?
mft_ 7y ago
Does your friend also object to planes flying over their property? (I would point out that the main reason people have objected to drones flying over their property is privacy: up to now, the only use-case for a drone is remote viewing – which some would find creepy/intrusive. I would posit that now drones can theoretically offer tangible real-world benefits --e.g. parcel delivery-- this will gradually fade out as an objection for most people - just as most people would tolerate a postman delivering letters to their house.)
- mbostleman 7y ago
  No, because they are 30k feet off the deck and, more importantly obviously, contain people.

If your friend lives anywhere that’s not rural, then no, she probably isn’t allowed to shoot it down, nor should she; bullets and buckshot could end up coming down on someone else. But, if she uses a satellite TV dish to aim the output of a magnetron at that drone, well, that’s another story.

mikece 7y ago

Your property goes from ground level to 200 feet; above that it's effectively the domain of the FAA. I would imagine the drones would have to fly between 200 and 500 feet until directly over the delivery target otherwise they would be either violating more restricted FAA airspace or trespassing on private property (under the 200 foot boundary).

hathawsh 7y ago

A much more interesting attack is GPS spoofing. What is Amazon (and everyone else) doing to solve that? GPS spoofing is fairly easy using SDR. https://hackaday.com/2012/07/01/spoofing-gps-and-getting-your-own-uav/ https://hackaday.com/2012/07/01/spoofing-gps-and-getting-you... https://www.rtl-sdr.com/tag/gps-spoofing/ https://www.rtl-sdr.com/tag/gps-spoofing/

kgilpin 7y ago
Maybe they will just prosecute people who do that?

mft_ 7y ago

Does your friend also object to planes flying over their property? (I would point out that the main reason people have objected to drones flying over their property is privacy: up to now, the only use-case for a drone is remote viewing – which some would find creepy/intrusive. I would posit that now drones can theoretically offer tangible real-world benefits --e.g. parcel delivery-- this will gradually fade out as an objection for most people - just as most people would tolerate a postman delivering letters to their house.)

mbostleman 7y ago
No, because they are 30k feet off the deck and, more importantly obviously, contain people.