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Thats not at all what they were saying. The thread states white supremacy was the cause of the wars. It historically and factually was not. It played a role.

by lugg 7y ago

Thats not at all what they were saying. The thread states white supremacy was the cause of the wars. It historically and factually was not. It played a role. It was not the cause. Nobody is saying Hitler wasn't a racist (wtf.)

foldr 7y ago
Rebelgecko's comment (which is what I was responding to - not the entire thread) clearly suggests that the Nazi's racist ideology was just for show, and that they didn't really believe it. I doubt you can point to any reputable historian of World War II who denies that the Nazi's racist ideology, and its expansionist tendencies, played a major role in the outbreak of WWII. Think Sudetenland.
- lugg 7y ago
  Not at all what they were suggesting. Those things bloody happened. And again, nobody here is denying Nazis were racist. How can you say it played a major role in the outbreak of war when you can't even say it without tacking on the real causes with an "and" all while ignoring the USA turned a blind eye to the lot of it until Japan got involved? Nobody here has said it didn't play a role. And it did play a major role later on in WW2 but that's not what this thread is about is it? Did white supremacy cause WW1 and WW2. No. Did it play a part? Yes. Why are we talking about this? Because AP minced their words and should have just said nationalist racism.
  - foldr 7y ago
    >Not at all what they were suggesting. Those things bloody happened. This is clearly what the comment suggests. It is playing down Nazi racism by suggesting that the Nazis just pretended to be racists when it suited their purposes. (Note the inclusion of “even Jews”, as if to suggest that even the Holocaust was not racially motivated.) >without tacking on the real causes with an "and" The expansionism and the racism were intimately linked. Lebensraum.

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Thats not at all what they were saying. The thread states white supremacy was the cause of the wars. It historically and factually was not. It played a role.

by lugg 7y ago

foldr 7y ago
Rebelgecko's comment (which is what I was responding to - not the entire thread) clearly suggests that the Nazi's racist ideology was just for show, and that they didn't really believe it. I doubt you can point to any reputable historian of World War II who denies that the Nazi's racist ideology, and its expansionist tendencies, played a major role in the outbreak of WWII. Think Sudetenland.
- lugg 7y ago
  Not at all what they were suggesting. Those things bloody happened. And again, nobody here is denying Nazis were racist. How can you say it played a major role in the outbreak of war when you can't even say it without tacking on the real causes with an "and" all while ignoring the USA turned a blind eye to the lot of it until Japan got involved? Nobody here has said it didn't play a role. And it did play a major role later on in WW2 but that's not what this thread is about is it? Did white supremacy cause WW1 and WW2. No. Did it play a part? Yes. Why are we talking about this? Because AP minced their words and should have just said nationalist racism.
  - foldr 7y ago
    >Not at all what they were suggesting. Those things bloody happened. This is clearly what the comment suggests. It is playing down Nazi racism by suggesting that the Nazis just pretended to be racists when it suited their purposes. (Note the inclusion of “even Jews”, as if to suggest that even the Holocaust was not racially motivated.) >without tacking on the real causes with an "and" The expansionism and the racism were intimately linked. Lebensraum.