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You ever been to a legit protest? Have you been near the police line at a protest when there are thousands of protesters and hundreds of police officers and ten
by patagonia 7y ago
You ever been to a legit protest? Have you been near the police line at a protest when there are thousands of protesters and hundreds of police officers and tensions are high and really not nice stuff is being said all around? And the police officers just stand there at the ready. (Sometimes they don’t and they antagonize protestors or just plain assault then, but my experience has been that is the exception.) I have immense, enormous, huge respect for those officers. Sometimes the individual officers personal beliefs align with the protesters. Sometimes not. But they stand there. Just stand there. If things get violent then they shut things down. But a lot of times it feels like things don’t get violent because they are there and people know they will shut it down if things get violent. That’s what I want YouTube to be. YouTube should be the public infrastructure that is available for people to gather and exchange ideas upon, such that most people don’t even give a second thought to the importance of having public streets available to protest on, and the police are there when the law is broken or unprotected speech is spoken. That is it. The job doesn’t pay well. It’s not a glorified role. And it’s prob pretty miserable when things get heated. But it’s a beauty to behold when you step back from it all and take it in and see what is happening.
- mbrameld 7y ago> The job doesn’t pay well. I think this is an outdated belief. Many officers earn 6 figure salaries in the US.
- patagonia 7y agoA quick google, the top three results said average was 50k-60k. One result said the top 10% make low 6 figures. I doubt the majority of officers in those lines are top 10%, almost by simple math.
- Balgair 7y agoDepartments pay differently, but it is not uncommon that protests pay overtime and that picking up extra shifts in 'normal' work also pays overtime. Such things that pay overtime may be providing security at a parade, may be going into a school for education, may be going to a confrence, etc. Typically, any time you see an officer in uniform, they are getting compensated for that. This is VERY dependent on department, but it is typically not difficult to make much more than 60k.
- patagonia 7y agoWell. Then it would be over time? So they are paid more for the time worked during a protest, but that doesn’t make them “well paid” overall. I guess, I’m not seeing any more data in your comment. But. Even if I grant that they make 80k or 90k (up to 50% increase in base pay of 60k, and I’m gonna suppose the cost of living for those officers is commensurately higher), argument sake, I don’t see that really making a substantive difference in the argument
- ndiscussion 7y agoDo you not consider an average 50-60k "high"? That is more than basically anyone I know personally outside of software, and I'm not in a low COL area.
- patagonia 7y agoFor a job that I may get shot and die on any given day, no. I do not.
- lightbritefight 7y agoPolice dont even rate in the top ten most dangerous jobs in the us. They rank 15th. Electrical Engineers, loggers, fishermen, etc all have more dangerous jobs. http://time.com/4326676/dangerous-jobs-america/ http://time.com/4326676/dangerous-jobs-america/
- chrismcb 7y agoMedian household income is 56k.
- southphillyman 7y agoThere are detectives in my city that make $150k+ It's not unusual for police to double their base salary though overtime
- fwip 7y agoI don't know if this is what you meant, but that's what youtube is doing now. They've decided that these neo-Nazi videos are causing violence, so they've stepped in to remove those bad actors for the sake of everyone else.
- josteink 7y ago> They've decided that these neo-Nazi videos are causing violence I’ve decided that your comment causes violence towards people inclined to believe in freedom. And so does Antifa, BLM, third wave feminists. When do we start banning them? And are you “ok” with having someone else randomly labelling your speech as something “causing violence”? No? Then if it’s not ok to do to you, why is it ok to do upon others?
- pizzazzaro 7y agoLol nice bait, troll. When have Antifa, 3rd wave feminists, or any of it created mass shooters? The unspoken truth here is that this hate speech is creating and fueling that particular breed of violence.
- josteink 7y ago> When have Antifa, 3rd wave feminists, or any of it created mass shooters? If someone effectively manages to limit my liberties, does it matter if they used guns or not, or what other form of violence was involved?
- neetdeth 7y agoDid you deliberately drop BLM from the list because of the 2016 Dallas shooting? Who's trolling whom?
- fwip 7y agoI don't think you're running a video hosting platform - and if you are, I'd be inclined not to use it. You're also welcome to take your business elsewhere, if you wish YouTube had more Nazis on it.