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> They worked so hard to research and create a 2000 word article that accurately reflects the world (in accordance to their editorial guidelines) using their go

> They worked so hard to research and create a 2000 word article that accurately reflects the world (in accordance to their editorial guidelines) using their good name I'm not sure which news sites you read but most of the ones I've seen count only as journalism in a very vague and abstract sense. The information is thin, the writing poor, and major important questions go unanswered and ignored. If there is indeed any point to following the news on a daily basis (and there is good evidence to suggest there is not), the quality of most new sources is atrocious enough that none of it is worth my time. (The exception here is the occasional piece of very well done investigative journalism.) But, in regard to comments, they do it for the same reason that Hacker News or any other site has a comments section: community engagement. This is not necessary a bad thing but it comes with the responsibility to _moderate_ the resulting community and almost every site drops the ball on this.

gfodor 7y ago
Most journalism is close enough to propaganda these days that the least they could do is open comments so that the public can correct the record.
- creaghpatr 7y ago
  Comments do add additional context, it's just a situation by situation basis of whether they are useful. HN comments tend to be useful, YT comments are occasionally useful but mostly garbage.
- Faark 7y ago
  If you look at the comment sections of actual propaganda sites... well, you won't see Breitbart comments "correct the record". Quite the opposite, they are an important part of the local echo chamber. The only good they can do is giving others an unfiltered view into the minds of those communities.
  - rabidrat 7y ago
    That is interesting, I wonder if we could use the level of disagreement in the comment sections to detect propaganda vs news sites.
  - gfodor 7y ago
    Certainly, but all other things equal without comments there's a reduced opportunity for alternative views to surface on the same page.
dgjrhgi 7y ago
Is there any service that compiles relevant news(filtering out propaganda etc.). I would prefer an team of people doing the compile by manually going through various news sources and sending out the summary email to subscribers. That would be a huge time saver for me. I wouldn't milk paying money for that kind of service.
- X6S1x6Okd1st 7y ago
  That's the mission of most news providers.

gfodor 7y ago

Most journalism is close enough to propaganda these days that the least they could do is open comments so that the public can correct the record.

creaghpatr 7y ago
Comments do add additional context, it's just a situation by situation basis of whether they are useful. HN comments tend to be useful, YT comments are occasionally useful but mostly garbage.
Faark 7y ago
If you look at the comment sections of actual propaganda sites... well, you won't see Breitbart comments "correct the record". Quite the opposite, they are an important part of the local echo chamber. The only good they can do is giving others an unfiltered view into the minds of those communities.
- rabidrat 7y ago
  That is interesting, I wonder if we could use the level of disagreement in the comment sections to detect propaganda vs news sites.
- gfodor 7y ago
  Certainly, but all other things equal without comments there's a reduced opportunity for alternative views to surface on the same page.

dgjrhgi 7y ago

Is there any service that compiles relevant news(filtering out propaganda etc.). I would prefer an team of people doing the compile by manually going through various news sources and sending out the summary email to subscribers. That would be a huge time saver for me. I wouldn't milk paying money for that kind of service.

X6S1x6Okd1st 7y ago
That's the mission of most news providers.