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> other bigoted ideologies That's not specific enough. What about people who want to preserve European culture but don't think its "superior" to any other cult

> other bigoted ideologies That's not specific enough. What about people who want to preserve European culture but don't think its "superior" to any other culture?

busterarm 7y ago
What about people with conservative religious beliefs that others perceive to be exclusionary?
- remarkEon 7y ago
  Or if you have concerns about high levels of immigration and it’s relationship to overall cohesion of society. Views that were nominally conservative not long ago (and were actually also held by a lot of democrats) get recast as “Nazi!!1!1” in today’s environment. Weird historical inflection point we’re at.
- crankylinuxuser 7y ago
  "But what about..." "But what about..." NO. We're talking about people who want to exterminate other people. We know that because the last time they got power, we had mass executions (Holocaust), lynchings, and a century of extreme segregation. This isn't a 'what-if'. We know what happened the last time. Never again.
  - nailer 7y ago
    We have people who don't want to exterminate anyone being described as 'fascists' for supporting until-recently-uncontroversial immigration controls. If half of the US is described as extreme, then we can justify shutting down their voices.
  - busterarm 7y ago
    You're taking something specific and applying it in the broad. Directly as you quoted, "videos and channels that advocate for neo-Nazism, white supremacy and other bigoted ideologies", those are three separate things and there are a whole range of ideologies there. The person I replied to specifically called that last one into question, because of the fact that it is so broad. We we both able to point out other kinds of views that people consider to be bigotry and you literally just directly equated those examples with Nazis. This is exactly why people can't be given this kind of broad censorship power. You proved it in one comment. Congratulations.
  - Nuzzerino 7y ago
    Great, let's take down all fundamentalist Christian and Muslim videos now because we know that there were crusades and jihads in the past. I'm not being sarcastic, I really hope they apply this rule consistently. But my problem here is that I know that some of these groups will get a pass, and I think that's what a lot of people dislike about this rule but are not willing to admit.

> other bigoted ideologies That's not specific enough. What about people who want to preserve European culture but don't think its "superior" to any other culture?

busterarm 7y ago

What about people with conservative religious beliefs that others perceive to be exclusionary?

remarkEon 7y ago
Or if you have concerns about high levels of immigration and it’s relationship to overall cohesion of society. Views that were nominally conservative not long ago (and were actually also held by a lot of democrats) get recast as “Nazi!!1!1” in today’s environment. Weird historical inflection point we’re at.
crankylinuxuser 7y ago
"But what about..." "But what about..." NO. We're talking about people who want to exterminate other people. We know that because the last time they got power, we had mass executions (Holocaust), lynchings, and a century of extreme segregation. This isn't a 'what-if'. We know what happened the last time. Never again.
- nailer 7y ago
  We have people who don't want to exterminate anyone being described as 'fascists' for supporting until-recently-uncontroversial immigration controls. If half of the US is described as extreme, then we can justify shutting down their voices.
- busterarm 7y ago
  You're taking something specific and applying it in the broad. Directly as you quoted, "videos and channels that advocate for neo-Nazism, white supremacy and other bigoted ideologies", those are three separate things and there are a whole range of ideologies there. The person I replied to specifically called that last one into question, because of the fact that it is so broad. We we both able to point out other kinds of views that people consider to be bigotry and you literally just directly equated those examples with Nazis. This is exactly why people can't be given this kind of broad censorship power. You proved it in one comment. Congratulations.
- Nuzzerino 7y ago
  Great, let's take down all fundamentalist Christian and Muslim videos now because we know that there were crusades and jihads in the past. I'm not being sarcastic, I really hope they apply this rule consistently. But my problem here is that I know that some of these groups will get a pass, and I think that's what a lot of people dislike about this rule but are not willing to admit.