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Reminds me of this crazy clusterfuck unfolding in San Francisco: https://reason.com/2019/06/04/san-francisco-police-got-a-warrant-to-monitor-a-journalists-phon

• elliekelly 7y ago
  Wow. How is this not bigger news? I'm on the East Coast and it's the first I'm hearing of it but perhaps someone nearer to SF can comment on whether it's being widely discussed?
  • xxpor 7y ago
    It's been making the rounds on the west coast, especially among reporter types in SF.
  • mikeyouse 7y ago
    It's very widely covered; NYTimes: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/28/us/california-san-francisco-police-raid.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/28/us/california-san-francis... WaPO: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/05/14/how-police-raid-turned-death-beloved-police-critic-into-national-scandal/?utm_term=.b3b2c23a36f7 https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/05/14/how-police-... (Each have written more than 15 pieces that I can ID, I just posted a few examples)
• _jal 7y ago
  They look different to me. Australia is flexing its anti-speech authority, asserting the power to control what its subjects are allowed to talk about. My hometown cops are engaged in a much more quotidian abuse of power. Which is not to say ransacking Carmody's place wasn't egregious - it was. Watching the circular firing squad composed of the Mayor, the police chief and the cop-union attack dog just leaves me rooting for injuries. But ultimately it is a stupidity eruption caused by the cops' arrogant attempts to control their own (garbage) reputation. Our cops are criminals, but not part of a national strategy to shut down speech.
  • Datenstrom 7y ago
    > Our cops are criminals I spent a year working as a cop and I can assure you that cops are in fact normal people. Like any organization or group there is a tribal aspect to it and they will certainly close ranks and attempt to protect their own; however, that is organizational not individual. There is a larger cultural issue involved that drives such misguided organizational behavior.
    • xenospn 7y ago
      I think the real problem here is that police, as an organization, has the power to inflict real and considerable harm on those that try to "get in the way". They're not doing sanitation or driving your bus - they can ruin your life or just kill you.
      • _bxg1 7y ago
        Agreed. There's an elevated responsibility to be more than just "normal people" when you have a gun and a badge. I don't think it's fair to paint in broad strokes, but I do think it's fair to hold police to a higher standard, especially when it comes to tribalism. When it becomes "us vs them" and "us" has guns and state-sanctioned authority, that's a problem.
    • shooner 7y ago
      >they will certainly close ranks and attempt to protect their own; however, that is organizational not individual. Are you not talking about an organization conspiring to protect law-breakers from justice? Because normal people don't do that.
    • ChrisSD 7y ago
      I'm unsure what your point is? You can make the same claims about criminals and indeed many people people do. Criminals are in fact normal people.
      • electrograv 7y ago