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We just need to lose the idea of an 8 hour work day. It's an anachronism from the industrial revolution. Make me come in at 10AM, have standup, maybe a meeting

We just need to lose the idea of an 8 hour work day. It's an anachronism from the industrial revolution. Make me come in at 10AM, have standup, maybe a meeting or two, have lunch with colleagues, then everyone leaves by 2PM to work on their respective tasks. The problem with full work from home is that some people take advantage of it more than others, and you lose out on a lot of the "firm effect" that comes with face to face communication. The problem with 9-5 is rush hour, burn out, and inefficiency. Force everyone to show up 5 days a week for 4 hours and you get all the benefits of both.

_mcdougle 7y ago
I really like this idea. I don't think 100% either way is good.
Circuits 7y ago
Interesting you would say that. One of the biggest reasons I would want to work remote is because I can't afford to live in the town that I work in. Small town in Montana big city prices... no, I would definitely want to be able to choose where I live.
asark 7y ago
Well, not all. No broadened talent pool, and you still have commutes. IIRC that's something like 25min each way on average, so (math math math) you're saving people on the order of 200 hours a year by eliminating them, plus gas, car maintenance, maybe making dropping a car possible for two-car households, and we're talking probably 400+ person-hours a year saved, in actual commute time and in hours worked just to pay for commuting.
- KevinS626 7y ago
  I wish this was addressed more as a massive cost that only the employee must take on in order to even have a job. People have to risk their lives using a machine that they have to source themselves to come into an office everyday while not being compensated for that time, danger, and financial investment.
toastal 7y ago
My previous job was like that where half of the team lived in the same town but worked remote. I'd say it was idyllic to be able to ask some questions in person, and have lunch time comraderie. People came in to get work done or socialize and when you were ready, you can resume work at home or a coffee shop and felt no pressure to be there.
ryanmercer 7y ago
>We just need to lose the idea of an 8 hour work day. It's an anachronism from the industrial revolution. That depends heavily on the industry. We share desks with another shift and run 3 shifts a day Monday-Friday and 2 shifts on Saturday because we are dealing with inbound international freight. Police, fire, medical, retail, etc etc. People on HN tend to be extremely myopic and think that every other person on the planet pecks away at code all day wrapped up in their hoodies.

_mcdougle 7y ago

I really like this idea. I don't think 100% either way is good.

Circuits 7y ago

Interesting you would say that. One of the biggest reasons I would want to work remote is because I can't afford to live in the town that I work in. Small town in Montana big city prices... no, I would definitely want to be able to choose where I live.

asark 7y ago

Well, not all. No broadened talent pool, and you still have commutes. IIRC that's something like 25min each way on average, so (math math math) you're saving people on the order of 200 hours a year by eliminating them, plus gas, car maintenance, maybe making dropping a car possible for two-car households, and we're talking probably 400+ person-hours a year saved, in actual commute time and in hours worked just to pay for commuting.

KevinS626 7y ago
I wish this was addressed more as a massive cost that only the employee must take on in order to even have a job. People have to risk their lives using a machine that they have to source themselves to come into an office everyday while not being compensated for that time, danger, and financial investment.

toastal 7y ago

My previous job was like that where half of the team lived in the same town but worked remote. I'd say it was idyllic to be able to ask some questions in person, and have lunch time comraderie. People came in to get work done or socialize and when you were ready, you can resume work at home or a coffee shop and felt no pressure to be there.

ryanmercer 7y ago

>We just need to lose the idea of an 8 hour work day. It's an anachronism from the industrial revolution. That depends heavily on the industry. We share desks with another shift and run 3 shifts a day Monday-Friday and 2 shifts on Saturday because we are dealing with inbound international freight. Police, fire, medical, retail, etc etc. People on HN tend to be extremely myopic and think that every other person on the planet pecks away at code all day wrapped up in their hoodies.