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In the mind of Stephen Miller that 20% is the bug not the feature. The public supports maintaining or increasing immigration to this country. This administrati

In the mind of Stephen Miller that 20% is the bug not the feature. The public supports maintaining or increasing immigration to this country. This administration does not.

_red 7y ago
Define "immigration". One of the problems that smart, educated, intern-level immigrants have is they are getting caught in the crossfire of millions of uneducated day-laborers streaming over the border. We should have increased immigration on a merit-based system (obviously college students would be a strong merit).
- cat199 7y ago
  > One of the problems that smart, educated, intern-level immigrants have is they are getting caught in the crossfire of millions of uneducated day-laborers streaming over the border. Unless you take the position that immigration policies should be based on primacy of residence, in which case, bringing in specialists over non-specialists while at the same time not promoting specialization for natives is detrimental to the current residents. If we spent as much money on visas training the amorphous 'backwards middle america', we probably wouldn't need so many specialists.. and this 'need' is itself debatable.. i prefer working class immigrants. perhaps it is because as middle class i don't see them as a threat, but they seem much more humble than Dr. So And So who demands XYZPQ because he is a Global Elite YakketySchmakety.
  - klipt 7y ago
    Surely from an economic perspective, the "best" immigrants are the kind who earn a lot, paying a lot of taxes into your state/country, while not using a lot of taxpayer dollars in terms of social services, not having a lot of children who go to public schools, etc?
mistermann 7y ago
> The public supports maintaining or increasing immigration to this country. This administration does not. https://www.npr.org/2018/01/23/580037717/what-the-latest-immigration-polls-do-and-dont-say https://www.npr.org/2018/01/23/580037717/what-the-latest-imm... Americans could be forgiven for having poll whiplash this week. "Shock poll: Americans want massive cuts to legal immigration," said a headline from the Washington Times. "Americans broadly embrace the Democratic immigration position," declared a Washington Post headline, with the release of a new ABC/Washington Post poll. On immigration, as on any other issue, it can seem that there's a poll result that supports just about any position. Here's a look at immigration polls to explain what findings are shaky — and to highlight what can reasonably be concluded about Americans' views on immigration. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Lie_with_Statistics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Lie_with_Statistics https://fs.blog/2015/11/map-and-territory/ https://fs.blog/2015/11/map-and-territory/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map%E2%80%93territory_relation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map%E2%80%93territory_relation https://www.academia.edu/16741004/Modelling_Myth_Vs_Reality_Map_Vs_Territory https://www.academia.edu/16741004/Modelling_Myth_Vs_Reality_...
ovi256 7y ago
Immigration is one of the most divisive and polarised issues in US public policy, and one that brought to power the current POTUS. Saying the public unilateraly supports one side or another is naive at best, intentionally misleading at worst.
- akhilcacharya 7y ago
  Since 45's election, the public has become more supportive of increased immigration. https://news.gallup.com/poll/235793/record-high-americans-say-immigration-good-thing.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/235793/record-high-americans-sa... Anti-immigration sentiment peaked in 2014.

In the mind of Stephen Miller that 20% is the bug not the feature. The public supports maintaining or increasing immigration to this country. This administration does not.

_red 7y ago

Define "immigration". One of the problems that smart, educated, intern-level immigrants have is they are getting caught in the crossfire of millions of uneducated day-laborers streaming over the border. We should have increased immigration on a merit-based system (obviously college students would be a strong merit).

cat199 7y ago
> One of the problems that smart, educated, intern-level immigrants have is they are getting caught in the crossfire of millions of uneducated day-laborers streaming over the border. Unless you take the position that immigration policies should be based on primacy of residence, in which case, bringing in specialists over non-specialists while at the same time not promoting specialization for natives is detrimental to the current residents. If we spent as much money on visas training the amorphous 'backwards middle america', we probably wouldn't need so many specialists.. and this 'need' is itself debatable.. i prefer working class immigrants. perhaps it is because as middle class i don't see them as a threat, but they seem much more humble than Dr. So And So who demands XYZPQ because he is a Global Elite YakketySchmakety.
- klipt 7y ago
  Surely from an economic perspective, the "best" immigrants are the kind who earn a lot, paying a lot of taxes into your state/country, while not using a lot of taxpayer dollars in terms of social services, not having a lot of children who go to public schools, etc?

mistermann 7y ago

> The public supports maintaining or increasing immigration to this country. This administration does not. https://www.npr.org/2018/01/23/580037717/what-the-latest-immigration-polls-do-and-dont-say https://www.npr.org/2018/01/23/580037717/what-the-latest-imm... Americans could be forgiven for having poll whiplash this week. "Shock poll: Americans want massive cuts to legal immigration," said a headline from the Washington Times. "Americans broadly embrace the Democratic immigration position," declared a Washington Post headline, with the release of a new ABC/Washington Post poll. On immigration, as on any other issue, it can seem that there's a poll result that supports just about any position. Here's a look at immigration polls to explain what findings are shaky — and to highlight what can reasonably be concluded about Americans' views on immigration. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Lie_with_Statistics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Lie_with_Statistics https://fs.blog/2015/11/map-and-territory/ https://fs.blog/2015/11/map-and-territory/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map%E2%80%93territory_relation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map%E2%80%93territory_relation https://www.academia.edu/16741004/Modelling_Myth_Vs_Reality_Map_Vs_Territory https://www.academia.edu/16741004/Modelling_Myth_Vs_Reality_...

ovi256 7y ago

Immigration is one of the most divisive and polarised issues in US public policy, and one that brought to power the current POTUS. Saying the public unilateraly supports one side or another is naive at best, intentionally misleading at worst.

akhilcacharya 7y ago
Since 45's election, the public has become more supportive of increased immigration. https://news.gallup.com/poll/235793/record-high-americans-say-immigration-good-thing.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/235793/record-high-americans-sa... Anti-immigration sentiment peaked in 2014.