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Or we were too relaxed during the 2nd phase, until Russia annexed Crimea, Iran kept sponsoring their terrorist organisations, China started building military ba

by petre 7y ago

Or we were too relaxed during the 2nd phase, until Russia annexed Crimea, Iran kept sponsoring their terrorist organisations, China started building military bases in the South China Sea to intimidate its neighbours and it's general secretary went on to hint at annexing Tawian by force. I'm not surprised that the current US administration is taking action against China. This should have started in 2014.

mathw 7y ago
It felt like we had the means for a peaceful future this century, but then everyone starts acting like toddlers who aren't allowed unlimited sweets.
rudiv 7y ago
Relaxed, or distracted by waging 7 wars in MENA?
- babayega2 7y ago
  Irony.
manderley 7y ago
Meanwhile, the US was entirely passive, didn't operate bases anywhere and didn't invade anything. Totally relaxed.
- ionised 7y ago
  And definitely didn't station its own or NATO military forces and installations on the border with Russia and in Turkey in direct contravention of agreements with Russia. No sir, they definitely didn't do that before Russia countered by doing the same. Nope. We have always been at war with Eurasia. Move along citizen.
  - petre 7y ago
    My country used to have a direct border with the USSR. We'd much rather have NATO defensive instalations and troops on our territory, rather than Russian tanks and little green men with guns. The last time that happened we had 50 years of communism, the USSR took away several parts of our territory, effectively plundered our country's resources and invaded neighbouring countries in order to "restore order".
    - ionised 7y ago
      That's great, but it's irrelevant. They broke an agreement by doing this, then condemned Russia for reacting in the same way. It's simple hypocrisy.
otaviokz 7y ago
This level of one sidedness scares me. It's just as easy for a Russian/Chinese/Iranian/etc citizen to say the same about US. I'd say it's easier, if you take into account the ludicrous number of military bases the US has all around the world, the constant involvement in one or more wars, the infinite sabre rattling with North Korea, the unconditional support for what ever the hell Israel decides to do. I don't think US is more or less naturally inclined to be an international bully, but they have the capacity and actually do it on a scale no other country can since the USSR dissolved.

by petre 7y ago

mathw 7y ago

It felt like we had the means for a peaceful future this century, but then everyone starts acting like toddlers who aren't allowed unlimited sweets.

rudiv 7y ago

Relaxed, or distracted by waging 7 wars in MENA?

babayega2 7y ago
Irony.

manderley 7y ago

Meanwhile, the US was entirely passive, didn't operate bases anywhere and didn't invade anything. Totally relaxed.

ionised 7y ago
And definitely didn't station its own or NATO military forces and installations on the border with Russia and in Turkey in direct contravention of agreements with Russia. No sir, they definitely didn't do that before Russia countered by doing the same. Nope. We have always been at war with Eurasia. Move along citizen.
- petre 7y ago
  My country used to have a direct border with the USSR. We'd much rather have NATO defensive instalations and troops on our territory, rather than Russian tanks and little green men with guns. The last time that happened we had 50 years of communism, the USSR took away several parts of our territory, effectively plundered our country's resources and invaded neighbouring countries in order to "restore order".
  - ionised 7y ago
    That's great, but it's irrelevant. They broke an agreement by doing this, then condemned Russia for reacting in the same way. It's simple hypocrisy.

otaviokz 7y ago

This level of one sidedness scares me. It's just as easy for a Russian/Chinese/Iranian/etc citizen to say the same about US. I'd say it's easier, if you take into account the ludicrous number of military bases the US has all around the world, the constant involvement in one or more wars, the infinite sabre rattling with North Korea, the unconditional support for what ever the hell Israel decides to do. I don't think US is more or less naturally inclined to be an international bully, but they have the capacity and actually do it on a scale no other country can since the USSR dissolved.