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The US with its own separate tech supply chain and rare metals and China with an entirely self-sufficient tech ecosystem? Will be interested to see how history

The US with its own separate tech supply chain and rare metals and China with an entirely self-sufficient tech ecosystem? Will be interested to see how history works out for each country. It will be game-changing.

StreamBright 7y ago
Forcing China to create their own version of anything did not work out for the US. Remember when they banned Intel to ship CPUs for China's supercomputer? The end result: new CPU from China, Intel had to let people go because of the reduced amount of revenue. I suspect this trade war is going to result in a new Chinese OS and some other projects like that. At the end they will enter with these new products to the global market. Essentially unless the US gets every single country to ban Chinese products (which is unlikely) they just created more competition for themselves.
- ztratar 7y ago
  Source for your claims? Intel, as far as I know, only let people go because they've been diminished due to ARM and Cisco with smartphone processors. What is this new CPU from China? China is quite publicly known to be years behind the US in semiconductor design & fabrication. I would agree with your statement that we'll get a new Chinese OS. Overall this is already in existence w/ WeChat, and all they need to do is go further down into the Kernal. As Android is restricted partially in the future, this may lead to other problems thought. We'll see.
  - StreamBright 7y ago
    https://www.pcworld.com/article/2908692/us-blocks-intel-from-selling-xeon-chips-to-chinese-supercomputer-projects.html https://www.pcworld.com/article/2908692/us-blocks-intel-from... https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/04/10/us_intel_china_ban/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/04/10/us_intel_china_ban/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/15/china_supercomputer_chips/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/15/china_supercomputer... https://www.nextplatform.com/2016/06/20/look-inside-chinas-chart-topping-new-supercomputer/ https://www.nextplatform.com/2016/06/20/look-inside-chinas-c... http://www.netlib.org/utk/people/JackDongarra/PAPERS/sunway-report-2016.pdf http://www.netlib.org/utk/people/JackDongarra/PAPERS/sunway-... https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/11/13/500_supercomputers_list/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/11/13/500_supercomputers_... I am not saying Intel lays off people only because of the Chinese ban but I think it contributes to its troubles if they cannot sell Xeon processors to China.
- DeonPenny 7y ago
  So you are saying China is a special butterfly which grows stronger if limited in terms of resources but America and no one else has this special ability. Ok, time will tell

StreamBright 7y ago

Forcing China to create their own version of anything did not work out for the US. Remember when they banned Intel to ship CPUs for China's supercomputer? The end result: new CPU from China, Intel had to let people go because of the reduced amount of revenue. I suspect this trade war is going to result in a new Chinese OS and some other projects like that. At the end they will enter with these new products to the global market. Essentially unless the US gets every single country to ban Chinese products (which is unlikely) they just created more competition for themselves.

ztratar 7y ago
Source for your claims? Intel, as far as I know, only let people go because they've been diminished due to ARM and Cisco with smartphone processors. What is this new CPU from China? China is quite publicly known to be years behind the US in semiconductor design & fabrication. I would agree with your statement that we'll get a new Chinese OS. Overall this is already in existence w/ WeChat, and all they need to do is go further down into the Kernal. As Android is restricted partially in the future, this may lead to other problems thought. We'll see.
- StreamBright 7y ago
  https://www.pcworld.com/article/2908692/us-blocks-intel-from-selling-xeon-chips-to-chinese-supercomputer-projects.html https://www.pcworld.com/article/2908692/us-blocks-intel-from... https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/04/10/us_intel_china_ban/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/04/10/us_intel_china_ban/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/15/china_supercomputer_chips/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/15/china_supercomputer... https://www.nextplatform.com/2016/06/20/look-inside-chinas-chart-topping-new-supercomputer/ https://www.nextplatform.com/2016/06/20/look-inside-chinas-c... http://www.netlib.org/utk/people/JackDongarra/PAPERS/sunway-report-2016.pdf http://www.netlib.org/utk/people/JackDongarra/PAPERS/sunway-... https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/11/13/500_supercomputers_list/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/11/13/500_supercomputers_... I am not saying Intel lays off people only because of the Chinese ban but I think it contributes to its troubles if they cannot sell Xeon processors to China.
DeonPenny 7y ago
So you are saying China is a special butterfly which grows stronger if limited in terms of resources but America and no one else has this special ability. Ok, time will tell