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“the system, or public safety, cares more about the city, now that there’s gentrification and you’ve got big businesses and you’ve got dollars and you’ve got wh

“the system, or public safety, cares more about the city, now that there’s gentrification and you’ve got big businesses and you’ve got dollars and you’ve got white people moving in,” Clarke said. "White people"? That's racial discrimination. Why is that being printed with no consequences for the person who said it, why don't the rules of racial discrimination apply uniformly?

diveanon 7y ago
I don't think it is racist to say that the racial demographics of an area are changing. Also I think your definition of discrimination is pretty loose.
- Annatar 7y ago
  Any time one distinguishes between any human on the basis of skin color or origin, they are by definition of the verb to discriminate discriminating. Meanwhile we all have blood, liver, pancreas, brains et cetera. There is no biomechanial or biochemical difference unless we now start discriminating between levels of Melatonin.
  - diveanon 7y ago
    You are being pedantic, that is not the working definition and you know it.
    - Annatar 7y ago
      I don't care what the "working definition" is (you just made that up)! Discrimination is differentiation by definition. If it's "us versus them" rather than "because of their education, skill and work experience", it's racism. And this busted-ass world needs pedantic and lots of it, especially with most of it going down the drain.
johnmarcus 7y ago
Oh gawd. Discrimination requires suffering. White folks don't do any suffering, ergo, no one gives a shit except for the most uneducated and ignorant of people.
- mcny 7y ago
  People reading you're comment might assume that the words "white people" can never be racist. The words "white people" is not racist by itself just like the words "black people" isn't racist either. Context matters.
  - Annatar 7y ago
    "White people" is very racist because it discriminates between humans. It's just as racist as "that Redskin" or "Black people". Humans are humans, levels of Melatonin shouldn't play a role. The person who made the statement that it was "White people" was very much discriminating in that "us versus them" way: "White people" are causing gentrification, therefore it's their fault. Not their education, skills and work experience and therefore better paid jobs are causing it, but because they're White. It's that group. That's discrimination.
- Annatar 7y ago
  All people suffer. Discrimination also creates suffering.
krapp 7y ago
>"White people"? That's racial discrimination. Why is that being printed with no consequences for the person who said it, why don't the rules of racial discrimination apply uniformly? In the quoted sentence, “the system, or public safety, cares more about the city, now that there’s gentrification and you’ve got big businesses and you’ve got dollars and you’ve got white people moving in,” no racially discriminatory statement is being made about white people. Race exists. It is, for the most part, a social and political construct, but when discussing it in the context of the United States, it is a construct which has been baked deeply and inextricably into the identity of, and power structures of, American culture and governance. What is being implied is that the degree to which the city cares about public safety depends on the presence of, and business of, white people, and that gentrification (as an expression of economic class and property values) is correlated to race. Those are statements about government and economics and race, but not stereotypes about, or discrimination against, white people, and the implications of a link between the economic value of a racial demographic and public safety might be worth discussing. Unfortunately, it seems like you just saw the phrase "white people" and got triggered and had to pick the low hanging fruit and concern troll.

diveanon 7y ago

I don't think it is racist to say that the racial demographics of an area are changing. Also I think your definition of discrimination is pretty loose.

Annatar 7y ago
Any time one distinguishes between any human on the basis of skin color or origin, they are by definition of the verb to discriminate discriminating. Meanwhile we all have blood, liver, pancreas, brains et cetera. There is no biomechanial or biochemical difference unless we now start discriminating between levels of Melatonin.
- diveanon 7y ago
  You are being pedantic, that is not the working definition and you know it.
  - Annatar 7y ago
    I don't care what the "working definition" is (you just made that up)! Discrimination is differentiation by definition. If it's "us versus them" rather than "because of their education, skill and work experience", it's racism. And this busted-ass world needs pedantic and lots of it, especially with most of it going down the drain.

johnmarcus 7y ago

Oh gawd. Discrimination requires suffering. White folks don't do any suffering, ergo, no one gives a shit except for the most uneducated and ignorant of people.

mcny 7y ago
People reading you're comment might assume that the words "white people" can never be racist. The words "white people" is not racist by itself just like the words "black people" isn't racist either. Context matters.
- Annatar 7y ago
  "White people" is very racist because it discriminates between humans. It's just as racist as "that Redskin" or "Black people". Humans are humans, levels of Melatonin shouldn't play a role. The person who made the statement that it was "White people" was very much discriminating in that "us versus them" way: "White people" are causing gentrification, therefore it's their fault. Not their education, skills and work experience and therefore better paid jobs are causing it, but because they're White. It's that group. That's discrimination.
Annatar 7y ago
All people suffer. Discrimination also creates suffering.

krapp 7y ago

>"White people"? That's racial discrimination. Why is that being printed with no consequences for the person who said it, why don't the rules of racial discrimination apply uniformly? In the quoted sentence, “the system, or public safety, cares more about the city, now that there’s gentrification and you’ve got big businesses and you’ve got dollars and you’ve got white people moving in,” no racially discriminatory statement is being made about white people. Race exists. It is, for the most part, a social and political construct, but when discussing it in the context of the United States, it is a construct which has been baked deeply and inextricably into the identity of, and power structures of, American culture and governance. What is being implied is that the degree to which the city cares about public safety depends on the presence of, and business of, white people, and that gentrification (as an expression of economic class and property values) is correlated to race. Those are statements about government and economics and race, but not stereotypes about, or discrimination against, white people, and the implications of a link between the economic value of a racial demographic and public safety might be worth discussing. Unfortunately, it seems like you just saw the phrase "white people" and got triggered and had to pick the low hanging fruit and concern troll.