> I mean, you can draw a big circle around all your development activities. Products have been invented that do that. They're called "IDE's", and are sort of th

> I mean, you can draw a big circle around all your development activities. Products have been invented that do that. They're called "IDE's", and are sort of the metaphorical opposite of the command line tools we're discussing, and not really a solution to the people choosing to use this environment. Maybe? I don't really think it's an opposite thing anymore. Most of my projects are written/browsed/debugged in an IDE but not built/configured/etc. in the IDE, and the testing, git, docker, code review, etc. work just happen in a console instance or web browser next to the IDE.