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I estimate the odds that AWS Aurora will offer "massive scale SQL without manual shading" in the next 3 years to be >95%. Then why would anyone want to to use C

I estimate the odds that AWS Aurora will offer "massive scale SQL without manual shading" in the next 3 years to be >95%. Then why would anyone want to to use Cockroach? They need to differentiate on something else. Ideally something that Amazon is unwilling to do, or would find very hard to do.

espadrine 7y ago
Amazon may be unwilling or unable to be multi-cloud. Companies worried about being stuck in a silo may think twice if they have a more convenient option. Besides, crdb does worldwide SQL databases now, and the only competitor at that level is not Aurora, it is Google Cloud Spanner, at a much higher price range and with very limited options.
- senderista 7y ago
  Amazon is generally averse to multi-region integration for reasons of fault-tolerance, so I doubt they are going to offer a fully geo-distributed DB any time soon.
- lmeyerov 7y ago
  The #2+ cloud vendors are hungry for marketshare, so they're showing signs of multi-cloud already (and already global). A bit reductive, but CRDB is now in an arbitrage game: will Google/MS/IBM/Oracle/Baidu/... pay $200M-$1B to buy them ($50M is a lot on the cap table), or they somehow pull off a rev share similar to "Azure Databricks" that they can bail before it goes to zero / find something more differentiating long-term. Once every top infra team at MS & Google realized they can be a saas/paaas revenue center, not just saving 1% in internal costs, that made the whole "Google for everyone else" VC funding wave feel like musical chairs. It does feel like a good ("least bad") move given the environment. We have taken an "embrace" approach to using/contributing to OSS and assuming commoditization of database+compute tech (Apache Arrow, Nvidia RAPIDS, ...). We've wanted to further open most of our code, not just those libs, so we're not the only ones writing funny distributed GPU webapp+etl stuff... but couldn't find a way that made sense so far. So, I've been watching with great interest, and good luck to the teams involved!

espadrine 7y ago

Amazon may be unwilling or unable to be multi-cloud. Companies worried about being stuck in a silo may think twice if they have a more convenient option. Besides, crdb does worldwide SQL databases now, and the only competitor at that level is not Aurora, it is Google Cloud Spanner, at a much higher price range and with very limited options.

senderista 7y ago
Amazon is generally averse to multi-region integration for reasons of fault-tolerance, so I doubt they are going to offer a fully geo-distributed DB any time soon.
lmeyerov 7y ago
The #2+ cloud vendors are hungry for marketshare, so they're showing signs of multi-cloud already (and already global). A bit reductive, but CRDB is now in an arbitrage game: will Google/MS/IBM/Oracle/Baidu/... pay $200M-$1B to buy them ($50M is a lot on the cap table), or they somehow pull off a rev share similar to "Azure Databricks" that they can bail before it goes to zero / find something more differentiating long-term. Once every top infra team at MS & Google realized they can be a saas/paaas revenue center, not just saving 1% in internal costs, that made the whole "Google for everyone else" VC funding wave feel like musical chairs. It does feel like a good ("least bad") move given the environment. We have taken an "embrace" approach to using/contributing to OSS and assuming commoditization of database+compute tech (Apache Arrow, Nvidia RAPIDS, ...). We've wanted to further open most of our code, not just those libs, so we're not the only ones writing funny distributed GPU webapp+etl stuff... but couldn't find a way that made sense so far. So, I've been watching with great interest, and good luck to the teams involved!