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What's audacious is that Ben thinks Apple hasn't considered the antitrust implications of the above hypothetical. I really doubt they'd force developers to use

by r00fus 7y ago

What's audacious is that Ben thinks Apple hasn't considered the antitrust implications of the above hypothetical. I really doubt they'd force developers to use Sign in with Apple, instead they'll just make it desired and profitable. My guess: this goes as far as Apple Pay app integration does now - some but not all apps, and in the least required.

scarface74 7y ago
How is it in any more "audacious" for Apple to force apps to use Apple's authentication for their platform than it is for Amazon to force you to use an Amazon account to use their platform (retail and AWS), or the console makers to do the same?
jonas21 7y ago
Apple is telling developers that Sign In with Apple will be required if you support Facebook, Google or any other third-party login: > Sign In with Apple will be available for beta testing this summer. It will be required as an option for users in apps that support third-party sign-in when it is commercially available later this year. https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=06032019j https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=06032019j
hobofan 7y ago
> What's audacious is that Ben thinks Apple hasn't considered the antitrust implications of the above hypothetical. Why not try it? Worst case they have to loosen requirements, and have to pay a tiny fraction of their cash reserves as a fine. Antitrust hast lost its teeth a long time ago. So there is a potential huge reward with low risk. Not saying that that's moral and should be done, but that seems to be the sad status quo.
pwinnski 7y ago
> I really doubt they'd force developers to use Sign in with Apple If developers allow any third-party authentication (Google, Facebook, etc), they must also allow Sign In with Apple. This is a June 3 update, and it will be a requirement before the end of the year.

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What's audacious is that Ben thinks Apple hasn't considered the antitrust implications of the above hypothetical. I really doubt they'd force developers to use

by r00fus 7y ago

scarface74 7y ago
How is it in any more "audacious" for Apple to force apps to use Apple's authentication for their platform than it is for Amazon to force you to use an Amazon account to use their platform (retail and AWS), or the console makers to do the same?
jonas21 7y ago
Apple is telling developers that Sign In with Apple will be required if you support Facebook, Google or any other third-party login: > Sign In with Apple will be available for beta testing this summer. It will be required as an option for users in apps that support third-party sign-in when it is commercially available later this year. https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=06032019j https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=06032019j
hobofan 7y ago
> What's audacious is that Ben thinks Apple hasn't considered the antitrust implications of the above hypothetical. Why not try it? Worst case they have to loosen requirements, and have to pay a tiny fraction of their cash reserves as a fine. Antitrust hast lost its teeth a long time ago. So there is a potential huge reward with low risk. Not saying that that's moral and should be done, but that seems to be the sad status quo.
pwinnski 7y ago
> I really doubt they'd force developers to use Sign in with Apple If developers allow any third-party authentication (Google, Facebook, etc), they must also allow Sign In with Apple. This is a June 3 update, and it will be a requirement before the end of the year.