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> Google has 90% of the search market. I can use Bing. I can use DuckDuckGo. I just don't want to. However, I've been a Verizon customer for almost a decade a
by ng12 7y ago
> Google has 90% of the search market.
I can use Bing. I can use DuckDuckGo. I just don't want to.
However, I've been a Verizon customer for almost a decade against my will.
- daj40 7y agoAgreed. If Google began to charge for their services, at least there would be a way out. If a single market telecom raised prices or change policies, there isn't any real recourse.
- mgreg 7y agoAnd if you wanted to place an ad online to say, reach everyone in the US of driving age (car ad), or in Toronto during an NBA game (Pizza ad) what are all your options?
- xadhominemx 7y agowell if they made excessive profits they would be met with overbuilders and/or regulation
- Ill_ban_myself 7y agoI wonder if the standard for excessive profits truly measures profit and not simply price increases and deceptive service charges. If it is the later I can say I have definitely been harmed by cost cutting measures related to quality of service within telecom. Contractors who don't have enough training and are overworked have completely supplanted full time personnel who know their company's product and can provide competent support.
- mgreg 7y agoAnd if you wanted to place an ad online to say, reach everyone in the US of driving age (car ad), or in Toronto during an NBA game (Pizza ad) what are all your options?
- the_watcher 7y agoIf you wanted to place a television ad to reach everyone in Toronto watching an NBA game, what are your options? You buy from the people who literally negotiated an exclusive right to air said game.
- SmirkingRevenge 7y agoAnd that option could very well be a giant media conglomerate who also happens to be a telecom.
- ng12 7y agoFacebook, Twitter, Google, Bing, Snapchat. I could maybe buy some advertising space directly from the Toronto Star. Google's probably the best but being better than your competition or offering products they don't doesn't make you a monopoly.
- tynpeddler 7y agoNow you're talking about the ad business, not the search business. In truth, Google isn't a search company, it's a advertising company with a search engine for market research. Once you look at it that way, you realize that Facebook and Amazon (to a certain extent) are direct competitors to Google, and they can't all be monopolies at the same time.
- RobLach 7y agoWhat is the search business? I've never directly paid for search in my life.
- clairity 7y ago> "...and they can't all be monopolies at the same time." semantically, that's true (since mono- implies one) but that doesn't mean that they can't all exert monopoly power in the same market and be an oligopoly. each establishes unfair advantages in the same market and stifles competition, like effectively excluding new extrants, for instance. monopolized markets aren't simply defined by the number of dominant players, but rather by how fair and competitive the markets are. while market share is an often-present characteristic of monopolists, you could have one player with 60% market share that doesn't have sufficient market poewr to raise prices. and higher profit margins resulting from undue influence over a market (with or without significant market share) can be the telling characteristic of a monopolist. in constrast, (asian) night markets seem to be a paragon of competitive markets, where there will be 29 competitors for the same product all lined up in a row.
- autoexec 7y agoBing was caught getting their search results in part from google and their response was "who cares". Last I checked Duckduckgo got their results from other places like bing and yahoo (who also uses google's results). One way or another, google's results are what you're getting no matter who you're using it seems.