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> No, it says that unlimited PTO _can_ be abused, not that it's inherent to the policy. > I'm currently at a company with unlimited PTO, and the way it works i
by vageli 7y ago
> No, it says that unlimited PTO _can_ be abused, not that it's inherent to the policy.
> I'm currently at a company with unlimited PTO, and the way it works in practice here is that people feel free to take random days off without having to count beans, on top of a pretty normal amount of scheduled vacation: I currently have six weeks of vacation on the calendar for the rest of the year (that's more than I would've liked, but I have a few important family things going on overseas). On top of that, I'm taking this Friday off for a visiting friend. This unavoidably means my career will be worse off than if I had an extra couple months of productive work this year, but I'm an adult, capable of making this decision to trade off marginal career success for marginal quality of life improvements.
> It's beyond me that some people who don't want to take responsibility for their careers are so desperate to tear down policies that treat employees like adults capable of making their own decisions. It's not like unlimited PTO is being offered to those who are one paycheck away from starvation. Take a normal amount of PTO if you want, take less or more if you want, but don't pretend like this choice being offered is exploitation.
I personally dislike the term "unlimited" because it truly is not. If you can't legitimately take a whole year off, don't call it unlimited. I'm sure some who take issue with "unlimited PTO" feel similarly.
- titanomachy 7y agoIt's more useful to think of it as "unmetered PTO, and you're still responsible for your performance".
- pjg 7y agoSure, we could call it "flexible PTO" but nomenclature isn't the point. The comment originally was the person wanted a guaranteed 5 weeks, no more, no less. That is "fixed PTO". A high growth startup needs flexibility and thus "flexible PTO" policy helps. Some employees need just 1-2 week. Others 2-3 weeks. Yet other 3-4 weeks. Flexibility helps both employee and employer