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I'm just astonished by the sheer amount of changes. On Linux it seems there's maybe 1% of this in each major update (not their fault of course)

azinman2 7y ago
Well in some ways it is 'their fault' in that there's split development between many competing designs, which means lots of wheel reinvention that increases overall fiction, as well as burnout. It's too bad -- if things were easier and more advanced I would expect people like UX professionals to want to contribute to build up their portfolio.
- whalabi 7y ago
  Sure, but I was referring to the amount of money being spent to develop Linux, Apple obviously has infinitely more cash and developers. And Linux has to compete with that. It's really more astonishingly impressive that Linux gets what it does, when you compare their resources to that of the absurdly wealthy and powerful Microsoft, Google, and Apple.
Jnr 7y ago
Was that a sarcasm or you meant "Linux Desktop apps" when using the word "Linux"? There are so many awesome things coming to Linux kernel almost every month. Linux desktop is problematic though. Hardcore developers stick to their terminal based development tools, tiling window managers, etc., so they do not really focus on consumer GUI apps that much. I use Windows, MacOS and Linux daily and I still prefer Linux desktop.
vetinari 7y ago
On the contrary, I don't see anything interesting there. Apple Music, TV and Podcasts coming bundled with the OS? Meh, could be put into App Store, for older macOS releases too. Marginally interesting are updates to Reminder and Notes. The separate volume for the system is interesting, but there's nothing else. On the contrary, Linux does come with interesting things, but they trickle down continuously in smaller doses, there's no once-in-a-year bombastic conference where they are introduced all at once, so the optics is different.

azinman2 7y ago

Well in some ways it is 'their fault' in that there's split development between many competing designs, which means lots of wheel reinvention that increases overall fiction, as well as burnout. It's too bad -- if things were easier and more advanced I would expect people like UX professionals to want to contribute to build up their portfolio.

whalabi 7y ago
Sure, but I was referring to the amount of money being spent to develop Linux, Apple obviously has infinitely more cash and developers. And Linux has to compete with that. It's really more astonishingly impressive that Linux gets what it does, when you compare their resources to that of the absurdly wealthy and powerful Microsoft, Google, and Apple.

Jnr 7y ago

Was that a sarcasm or you meant "Linux Desktop apps" when using the word "Linux"? There are so many awesome things coming to Linux kernel almost every month. Linux desktop is problematic though. Hardcore developers stick to their terminal based development tools, tiling window managers, etc., so they do not really focus on consumer GUI apps that much. I use Windows, MacOS and Linux daily and I still prefer Linux desktop.

vetinari 7y ago

On the contrary, I don't see anything interesting there. Apple Music, TV and Podcasts coming bundled with the OS? Meh, could be put into App Store, for older macOS releases too. Marginally interesting are updates to Reminder and Notes. The separate volume for the system is interesting, but there's nothing else. On the contrary, Linux does come with interesting things, but they trickle down continuously in smaller doses, there's no once-in-a-year bombastic conference where they are introduced all at once, so the optics is different.