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Here's the impression I'm getting looking at that page: It's like YouTube Originals. Curated, safe, sanitized. As an adult, this is like the last thing I'd want

Here's the impression I'm getting looking at that page: It's like YouTube Originals. Curated, safe, sanitized. As an adult, this is like the last thing I'd want in a YouTube-like site, for my viewing. I don't feel like I'm likely to find something unusual or unexpected. On the other hand, if I was a parent looking to distract my very young kids, curated, safe, sanitized, and ad-free is exactly what I'd want. EDIT: Issac Arthur is on there. Maybe I'll give it a try. Maybe this site can use YouTube as its "Bush Leagues." That's only going to work if it can portray itself as "The Majors."

duxup 7y ago
Yeah I've sworn off YouTube for my kids... you can't whitelist anything and the amount of garbage even on YouTube kids is terrible.
- bscphil 7y ago
  That's a reasonable choice in my opinion. If you want to make any videos available to younger kids, you might have a look at Youtube-dl which would allow you to store pre-viewed videos offline on a device for them to watch.
  - ericd 7y ago
    Youtube-dl is great, especially paired with a NAS running Plex server.
- ehsankia 7y ago
  That was one of my biggest complaints too, but Youtube Kids added whitelisting ~9 months ago.
- ballenf 7y ago
  What I'd like is a feature that requires kids to completely finish watching a selected video once before another will start. On Plex or YT. Maybe I'm just "old", but something feels very unhealthy about enabling kids' propensity to flip between shows as soon as one gets the slightest bit slow. Or make them get up and walk over to the TV to switch channels :).
rland 7y ago
I have to imagine that there is a market out there for SAFE low-ish budget content created to distract kids. I can imagine a "youtube kids" but where every video has actually been vetted by a responsible adult.
- ehsankia 7y ago
  Disney+ is going to completely rule that market.
  - quickthrower2 7y ago
    Not necessarily. Kids like short home made videos as much as Disney quality films.
    - elliekelly 7y ago
      Disney owns ABC. ABC owns America’s Funniest Home Videos. AFV owns decades and decades of some of the best, curated, family-friendly, user-submitted home made videos the world has to offer. AFV was YouTube before the internet. I’m certain AFV will have a lot of content on Disney+ specifically to capture that audience of kids interested in more organic content.
    - ehsankia 7y ago
      Is there any service that sells homemade kid videos? I was specifically talking about paid quality content. Disney+ will not only have Disney and Pixar films, but decades of Disney channel content too. That, along with Youtube Kids + whitelist, and you should be pretty set.
    - prepend 7y ago
      Disney has a bunch of shows that are just kids doing stuff. It’s scripted, but has the same ability to occupy kids time. They have production quality, but seem less than some homemade youtubers. As a parent, I’ll settle for not having flatearth videos in my kids feed.
Fomite 7y ago
I'd just like a venue where being mildly interested in games doesn't have an algorithm go "If you liked that, you'll love this fascist rant!"
- zoeysaurusrex 7y ago
  I too wish for this. As a trans person I learn a lot from videos. They unceasingly think I want to want cringe compilations that bash trans people.
- Aromasin 7y ago
  "Self-help" videos targeted at men often lead to that too I've found. I might be watching a video about how to come across as more confident to people, or tricks to becoming more disciplined, and with just four or five clicks via Peterson/Milo/Shapiro videos you'll get to the "Lib CUCK get's destroyed by FACTS and LOGIC" side of YouTube.
  - nostalgk 7y ago
    This is honestly a really dark pattern that I feel has trapped a lot of unsure/insecure adolescent men. I had a college roommate who had a lot of trouble talking to people, and constantly watched a lot of self help videos (which is honestly a pretty good indicator of self-improvement). However, he was exposed to a lot of rabid political rhetoric at the same time. All it took to steer him away was getting him outside and with some nice people, but those who are more withdrawn I think are increasingly being exposed to this kind of content at their most impressionable time. It almost feels manufactured.
    - pjc50 7y ago
      Fascism has always had a kind of "self-improvement" as a core of its appeal: it offers the freedom of scapegoating, of blaming others. It's a lot easier to go out and denounce someone than recognise the parts of yourself that need work and work on them. And it's very easy for people to enjoy being part of an angry mob, or reinforce their masculinity through street violence or weapons accumulation. The "pick up artist" ecosystem had a similar appeal, of selling self-help to the vulnerable. That collapsed into the "incel" subculture of blaming everything on women and percieved more attractive men.
wDcBKgt66V8WDs 7y ago
As an adult, this is exactly what I want. So tired of the unrelated drivel youtube recommends. I will gladly watch a few favorite channels all day but youtube wants me to either watch "similar" channels of 5% the quality or "top 10 hot girl fails" which, btw, I have _never_ clicked on why does it still recommend this to me? Every few months I find another channel that is absolutely incredible and in line with what I already watch and I wonder "why was that not recommended before? why lower quality or unrelated videos?"

duxup 7y ago

Yeah I've sworn off YouTube for my kids... you can't whitelist anything and the amount of garbage even on YouTube kids is terrible.

bscphil 7y ago
That's a reasonable choice in my opinion. If you want to make any videos available to younger kids, you might have a look at Youtube-dl which would allow you to store pre-viewed videos offline on a device for them to watch.
- ericd 7y ago
  Youtube-dl is great, especially paired with a NAS running Plex server.
ehsankia 7y ago
That was one of my biggest complaints too, but Youtube Kids added whitelisting ~9 months ago.
ballenf 7y ago
What I'd like is a feature that requires kids to completely finish watching a selected video once before another will start. On Plex or YT. Maybe I'm just "old", but something feels very unhealthy about enabling kids' propensity to flip between shows as soon as one gets the slightest bit slow. Or make them get up and walk over to the TV to switch channels :).

rland 7y ago

I have to imagine that there is a market out there for SAFE low-ish budget content created to distract kids. I can imagine a "youtube kids" but where every video has actually been vetted by a responsible adult.

ehsankia 7y ago
Disney+ is going to completely rule that market.
- quickthrower2 7y ago
  Not necessarily. Kids like short home made videos as much as Disney quality films.
  - elliekelly 7y ago
    Disney owns ABC. ABC owns America’s Funniest Home Videos. AFV owns decades and decades of some of the best, curated, family-friendly, user-submitted home made videos the world has to offer. AFV was YouTube before the internet. I’m certain AFV will have a lot of content on Disney+ specifically to capture that audience of kids interested in more organic content.
  - ehsankia 7y ago
    Is there any service that sells homemade kid videos? I was specifically talking about paid quality content. Disney+ will not only have Disney and Pixar films, but decades of Disney channel content too. That, along with Youtube Kids + whitelist, and you should be pretty set.
  - prepend 7y ago
    Disney has a bunch of shows that are just kids doing stuff. It’s scripted, but has the same ability to occupy kids time. They have production quality, but seem less than some homemade youtubers. As a parent, I’ll settle for not having flatearth videos in my kids feed.

Fomite 7y ago

I'd just like a venue where being mildly interested in games doesn't have an algorithm go "If you liked that, you'll love this fascist rant!"

zoeysaurusrex 7y ago
I too wish for this. As a trans person I learn a lot from videos. They unceasingly think I want to want cringe compilations that bash trans people.
Aromasin 7y ago
"Self-help" videos targeted at men often lead to that too I've found. I might be watching a video about how to come across as more confident to people, or tricks to becoming more disciplined, and with just four or five clicks via Peterson/Milo/Shapiro videos you'll get to the "Lib CUCK get's destroyed by FACTS and LOGIC" side of YouTube.
- nostalgk 7y ago
  This is honestly a really dark pattern that I feel has trapped a lot of unsure/insecure adolescent men. I had a college roommate who had a lot of trouble talking to people, and constantly watched a lot of self help videos (which is honestly a pretty good indicator of self-improvement). However, he was exposed to a lot of rabid political rhetoric at the same time. All it took to steer him away was getting him outside and with some nice people, but those who are more withdrawn I think are increasingly being exposed to this kind of content at their most impressionable time. It almost feels manufactured.
  - pjc50 7y ago
    Fascism has always had a kind of "self-improvement" as a core of its appeal: it offers the freedom of scapegoating, of blaming others. It's a lot easier to go out and denounce someone than recognise the parts of yourself that need work and work on them. And it's very easy for people to enjoy being part of an angry mob, or reinforce their masculinity through street violence or weapons accumulation. The "pick up artist" ecosystem had a similar appeal, of selling self-help to the vulnerable. That collapsed into the "incel" subculture of blaming everything on women and percieved more attractive men.

wDcBKgt66V8WDs 7y ago

As an adult, this is exactly what I want. So tired of the unrelated drivel youtube recommends. I will gladly watch a few favorite channels all day but youtube wants me to either watch "similar" channels of 5% the quality or "top 10 hot girl fails" which, btw, I have _never_ clicked on why does it still recommend this to me? Every few months I find another channel that is absolutely incredible and in line with what I already watch and I wonder "why was that not recommended before? why lower quality or unrelated videos?"