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Apple swindles and manipulates the user to buying a new device whenever there is any fault at all because everything is glued and soldered together so fixing an

Apple swindles and manipulates the user to buying a new device whenever there is any fault at all because everything is glued and soldered together so fixing anything requires buying half of the device.

katbyte 7y ago
I don’t think that is a fair comparison. Aside from hardware va software I personally have never had an issue with apple products last 3 or more years. Get apple care and they just fix or replace it when anything goes wrong. Better experience then my friends seem to have with other manufactures.
- baroffoos 7y ago
  I have a collection of broken apple products from other people who were going to throw them out. Usually they have a fairly minor issue but its just about impossible to fix because of the use of insane amounts of glue or one way clips
  - Twisell 7y ago
    It’s pretty funny though that you consider a few dozen Apple broken devices as "a collection" meanwhile a few dozen of Android broken devices is generally considered "a pile of thrash". And this effect is massive last week I offered two of my old laptops to a friend child wanabee hacker. He quickly considered a 2012 HP for parts, then he kept on thanking me for a working state 2002 PPC iBook. PS: To be honest he might be ranting about it in a few day, I’ve played around it a little and that 2002 iBook bios is a mostly undocumented nightmare!
  - falsedan 7y ago
    I went through the pile of Apple stuff we'd collected over the last few years and repaired them myself. Annoying + fiddly but simple and extremely possible with some spare parts, a $20 toolkit, and care + patience. The battery glue is like a 3M command strip, you're supposed to remove it by applying tension to the side. You need the heat source if the strip breaks and gets trapped underneath, but I used dental floss instead.
FighterMafia 7y ago
lol u mad
dragonsky67 7y ago
Personal experience. Battery change on iphone SE, cost $75. They couldn't safely do the replacement (broken tabs on battery) and they simply replaced the phone. I'm not sure how this is manipulating to get me to purchase a new phone.
- tty2300 7y ago
  That's not much better. Another phone goes to landfill because not even apple was able to repair it due to their horrendous practicices. It took me half an hour to remove a battery from an iPhone and I had to get the hair dryer out to melt the glue. With other devices I just unscrew a bracket holding the battery down and it takes me 5 minutes.
  - applecrazy 7y ago
    > Another phone goes to landfill That's disingenuous. Apple has a recycling program, where they take apart every component to be reused or recycled into new materials.[1] [1]: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2018/04/apple-adds-earth-day-donations-to-trade-in-and-recycling-program/ https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2018/04/apple-adds-earth-day-...
    - r3bl 7y ago
      Has a recycling program =/= everyone who ever purchased an iPhone is using that recycling program. 7.8 million "Apple devices"[0] in 2018 is a lot, but an average iPhone is far more likely to end up on a landfill. If it were easy to extract the battery, that wouldn't be such a problem. [0] They group them all together and I can't find any other metric: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2019/04/apple-expands-global-recycling-programs/ https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2019/04/apple-expands-global-...
      - saagarjha 7y ago
        Yes, but phones that Apple swaps out generally do get recycled.

katbyte 7y ago

I don’t think that is a fair comparison. Aside from hardware va software I personally have never had an issue with apple products last 3 or more years. Get apple care and they just fix or replace it when anything goes wrong. Better experience then my friends seem to have with other manufactures.

baroffoos 7y ago
I have a collection of broken apple products from other people who were going to throw them out. Usually they have a fairly minor issue but its just about impossible to fix because of the use of insane amounts of glue or one way clips
- Twisell 7y ago
  It’s pretty funny though that you consider a few dozen Apple broken devices as "a collection" meanwhile a few dozen of Android broken devices is generally considered "a pile of thrash". And this effect is massive last week I offered two of my old laptops to a friend child wanabee hacker. He quickly considered a 2012 HP for parts, then he kept on thanking me for a working state 2002 PPC iBook. PS: To be honest he might be ranting about it in a few day, I’ve played around it a little and that 2002 iBook bios is a mostly undocumented nightmare!
- falsedan 7y ago
  I went through the pile of Apple stuff we'd collected over the last few years and repaired them myself. Annoying + fiddly but simple and extremely possible with some spare parts, a $20 toolkit, and care + patience. The battery glue is like a 3M command strip, you're supposed to remove it by applying tension to the side. You need the heat source if the strip breaks and gets trapped underneath, but I used dental floss instead.

FighterMafia 7y ago

lol u mad

dragonsky67 7y ago

Personal experience. Battery change on iphone SE, cost $75. They couldn't safely do the replacement (broken tabs on battery) and they simply replaced the phone. I'm not sure how this is manipulating to get me to purchase a new phone.

tty2300 7y ago
That's not much better. Another phone goes to landfill because not even apple was able to repair it due to their horrendous practicices. It took me half an hour to remove a battery from an iPhone and I had to get the hair dryer out to melt the glue. With other devices I just unscrew a bracket holding the battery down and it takes me 5 minutes.
- applecrazy 7y ago
  > Another phone goes to landfill That's disingenuous. Apple has a recycling program, where they take apart every component to be reused or recycled into new materials.[1] [1]: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2018/04/apple-adds-earth-day-donations-to-trade-in-and-recycling-program/ https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2018/04/apple-adds-earth-day-...
  - r3bl 7y ago
    Has a recycling program =/= everyone who ever purchased an iPhone is using that recycling program. 7.8 million "Apple devices"[0] in 2018 is a lot, but an average iPhone is far more likely to end up on a landfill. If it were easy to extract the battery, that wouldn't be such a problem. [0] They group them all together and I can't find any other metric: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2019/04/apple-expands-global-recycling-programs/ https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2019/04/apple-expands-global-...
    - saagarjha 7y ago
      Yes, but phones that Apple swaps out generally do get recycled.