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They're close to parity with a giant exception that it's not available to the overwhelming majority of Facebook users.
by noelsusman 7y ago
They're close to parity with a giant exception that it's not available to the overwhelming majority of Facebook users.
- pluffycat 7y agoFb and G screwed themselves by: forcing users to submit real cell phone numbers (no forwarding numbers allowed) and real names. I’m laughing all the way to the apple oauth signup. So tired of G and Fb abusing users
- rconti 7y agoFrom a privacy standpoint, yes, but from a Signal:Noise ratio, this is what made Fb usable for so long.
- throaway5533 7y agoApple now requires 2FA for new accounts created on an iPhone and for 2FA they require a phone number.
- basch 7y agoFeature parity for most people, not userbase parity.
- noelsusman 7y agoThe ability to run on my phone seems like an important feature.
- basch 7y agoAre you their customer? Do you buy their products? If not, then no you're not important. Their business model is to serve their paying customers.
- damnyou 7y agoMany people use devices from several ecosystems.
- basch 7y agoI have an android and iphone but realistically how many people have one of each phone?
- damnyou 7y agoPeople don't use Windows and iPhone at the same time? Or Mac and Android? or Android and iPad?
- basch 7y agoThe conversation was "The ability to run on my phone seems like an important feature." Either you have an iPhone or you dont. Sure they might have an ipad and imac and an android phone. I suppose thats possible. But at that point, you are the exact kind of customer this business model is designed to get to switch over to the full ecosystem. Are we really arguing if the "Sign in with apple" button will work on websites from chrome on windows? If apple wants to be an identity provider, their web sso will work everywhere. Or are we talking about iMessage, the flagship iPhone app, not working on android phones? Apple will lose more customers to Android, who only want an iPhone for iMessage, than they will gain.
- damnyou 7y agoWe're talking at different levels. You keep repeating obvious facts everyone already knows as if they're novel, and I keep pointing about that all those facts clearly imply that Apple wants to make money off of you through abusive lock-in practices. (I really doubt the sign in with Apple button is going to be available in Android apps. If you create an account with the button, it becomes ever so harder to switch to Android. How convenient for Apple.) I don't think continuing this discussion is helpful. Have a nice day.
- mindgam3 7y agoTrue, but Facebook’s overwhelming majority of users is completely irrelevant now that their brand is irreparably tarnished. People will still use Facebook for a long time, but nobody other than a few diehards and people who work there want FB to own their identity. I believe that particular grand vision is dead for FB despite their user base.
- dannyw 7y agoNo one is gonna buy an iPhone to "sign in with apple". No one is gonna make a group chat on iMessage where half the people aren't able to join anyway. Apple should release iMessage for Android.
- basch 7y agopeople buy iphones to use imessage. an imessage group with non imessage people just turns into mms.
- diminoten 7y agoYou can create/have an Apple account without any Apple devices, I believe.