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I'm hoping for this. If you have little kids in your house you cannot safely use the iPad Mail client, for example

JustSomeNobody 7y ago
Settings->General->Accessibility->Guided access. This is pretty cool. It keeps them within the app I want them to be in. you can even set it up so that when they're watching a movie, you can disable taps so they can't exit the video accidentally.
- mattkevan 7y ago
  Guided access is great. It means my 2 year old can watch a video or play a game without worrying about her getting into anything else.
  - anbop 7y ago
    A 2 year old should not be watching TV and playing video games.
    - saagarjha 7y ago
      Says you. There's certainly value that TV or video games can give young children.
      - rchaud 7y ago
        If you sit down with them and watch/play together, absolutely. If you just plop the kid down in front and let Youtube's autoplay algorithm do the work, that's a very different matter.
        eric_the_read 7y ago
        It's stressful enough trying to keep up with all the expectations society puts on new parents without the additional hassle of strangers on the Internet criticizing your parenting style because it doesn't agree with their preconceived notions of how you ought to raise your children. Let parents parent.
        anbop 7y ago
        Sure, give them Marlboros and Wild Turkey too.
      - anbop 7y ago
        And some people meet their best friends through their heroin dealer.
- chrsstrm 7y ago
  It took my 3yo niece about a week to learn how to escape guided access. At that point it became more of a hassle then a help. It might be fine for toddlers but for any kids over 2 you need a fully sandboxed profile if you’re not handing them a dedicated tablet.
  - Redoubts 7y ago
    She guessed your pin?
    - chrsstrm 7y ago
      Yup, she brute-forced it. This was back before touchID and faceID and IIRC GA pins were only four digits. The game quickly changed from let’s watch cartoons to let’s figure out how to change apps.
      - BoorishBears 7y ago
        I mean, I just checked and now the pin is 6 digits long, and there's a 10 second time out between attempts. Your original comment implies there's some kind of fundamental flaw with GA that makes it useless, which apparently couldn't be further from the truth. Even with a 4 digit pin it takes 5 seconds to change it if it's figured out, and if the child has enough time to brute force 10,000 possible combinations without you being able to intervene and rebuff that behavior, I'd say that's it's own problem.
        darrenf 7y ago
        10,000 combinations aren't required. The child stops when the answer is right. And if they've ever noticed one or two digits when watching the parent unlock the iPad for them to use, it drops to 1,000 or 100 max.
        BoorishBears 7y ago
        Maybe you’re not aware, but technically you can guess any number in one try, saying you brute forced something with 10,000 combinations doesn’t mean it took 10k tries. 10k is a representation of the fact it’s not likely to guess it easily, and the new GA lock increases that number to 1 million combinations with 10 second lockouts. Not to mention, you should yes, generally avoid showing a pin to the person you’re keeping out. You don’t need to enter the pin to use GA. It’s also not the same pin used to unlock the iPad as your comment seems to imply.
threatofrain 7y ago
Also whenever you want to update an app you purchased for the kids you have to log back into your account, and you just don't want kids poking into your stuff in general.
bhaak 7y ago
Apple's solution to this is "buy another device". I would be very surprised if we ever see a multi-user mode for iOS.
- adiabatty 7y ago
  They already have one, but it's for schools only: https://help.apple.com/deployment/education/#/cad7e2e0cf56 https://help.apple.com/deployment/education/#/cad7e2e0cf56

Settings->General->Accessibility->Guided access. This is pretty cool. It keeps them within the app I want them to be in. you can even set it up so that when they're watching a movie, you can disable taps so they can't exit the video accidentally.

mattkevan 7y ago
Guided access is great. It means my 2 year old can watch a video or play a game without worrying about her getting into anything else.
- anbop 7y ago
  A 2 year old should not be watching TV and playing video games.
  - saagarjha 7y ago
    Says you. There's certainly value that TV or video games can give young children.
    - rchaud 7y ago
      If you sit down with them and watch/play together, absolutely. If you just plop the kid down in front and let Youtube's autoplay algorithm do the work, that's a very different matter.
      - eric_the_read 7y ago
        It's stressful enough trying to keep up with all the expectations society puts on new parents without the additional hassle of strangers on the Internet criticizing your parenting style because it doesn't agree with their preconceived notions of how you ought to raise your children. Let parents parent.
        anbop 7y ago
        Sure, give them Marlboros and Wild Turkey too.
    - anbop 7y ago
      And some people meet their best friends through their heroin dealer.
chrsstrm 7y ago
It took my 3yo niece about a week to learn how to escape guided access. At that point it became more of a hassle then a help. It might be fine for toddlers but for any kids over 2 you need a fully sandboxed profile if you’re not handing them a dedicated tablet.
- Redoubts 7y ago
  She guessed your pin?
  - chrsstrm 7y ago
    Yup, she brute-forced it. This was back before touchID and faceID and IIRC GA pins were only four digits. The game quickly changed from let’s watch cartoons to let’s figure out how to change apps.
    - BoorishBears 7y ago
      I mean, I just checked and now the pin is 6 digits long, and there's a 10 second time out between attempts. Your original comment implies there's some kind of fundamental flaw with GA that makes it useless, which apparently couldn't be further from the truth. Even with a 4 digit pin it takes 5 seconds to change it if it's figured out, and if the child has enough time to brute force 10,000 possible combinations without you being able to intervene and rebuff that behavior, I'd say that's it's own problem.
      - darrenf 7y ago
        10,000 combinations aren't required. The child stops when the answer is right. And if they've ever noticed one or two digits when watching the parent unlock the iPad for them to use, it drops to 1,000 or 100 max.
        BoorishBears 7y ago
        Maybe you’re not aware, but technically you can guess any number in one try, saying you brute forced something with 10,000 combinations doesn’t mean it took 10k tries. 10k is a representation of the fact it’s not likely to guess it easily, and the new GA lock increases that number to 1 million combinations with 10 second lockouts. Not to mention, you should yes, generally avoid showing a pin to the person you’re keeping out. You don’t need to enter the pin to use GA. It’s also not the same pin used to unlock the iPad as your comment seems to imply.

threatofrain 7y ago

Also whenever you want to update an app you purchased for the kids you have to log back into your account, and you just don't want kids poking into your stuff in general.

bhaak 7y ago

Apple's solution to this is "buy another device". I would be very surprised if we ever see a multi-user mode for iOS.

adiabatty 7y ago
They already have one, but it's for schools only: https://help.apple.com/deployment/education/#/cad7e2e0cf56 https://help.apple.com/deployment/education/#/cad7e2e0cf56