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How does the Mac Mini not meet what you're asking for?

by vesrah 7y ago

vbezhenar 7y ago
I want tower case, silent and performant. I want powerful GPU for few games I'm playing. I want ECC memory. I want to put one or two HDDs along with main SSD. Mac mini does not sound like something I would like to use. I don't need small size, I have enough room. I don't need portability, I work from one place.
- fooey 7y ago
  I don't know why people still keep waiting for Apple to support gaming in any way at all. Worse than just not supporting gaming, they're antagonistically blocking companies like Nvidia who tried to fill in the gap with external GPUs. https://appleinsider.com/articles/19/01/18/apples-management-doesnt-want-nvidia-support-in-macos-and-thats-a-bad-sign-for-the-mac-pro https://appleinsider.com/articles/19/01/18/apples-management... If you want to game, you buy Windows, end of story.
  - vbezhenar 7y ago
    Blizzard released a lot of games for macOS. Also I played Rimworld, Factorio recently and those games seems to have Mac version as well. I'm not very involved gamer, I just play sometimes and it seems that Mac supports almost all games I need.
    - mcphage 7y ago
      > Blizzard released a lot of games for macOS. Also I played Rimworld, Factorio recently and those games seems to have Mac version as well. I don't think any of those games are GPU intensive. Blizzard seems to want their games to run on as many machines as possible, and Rimworld and Factorio are both 2D.
      - vbezhenar 7y ago
        That depends on resolution. At ultra settings and 1920x1080 integrated GPU won't be able to run World of Warcraft, for example. Even Nvidia 1060 can't, and I think that it's pretty powerful GPU. And for 4K resolution probably something high-end is required.
  - JimDabell 7y ago
    > I don't know why people still keep waiting for Apple to support gaming in any way at all. They just announced PS4 and Xbox One gamepad support and had Mojang on stage to demo a new version of Minecraft in this very keynote.
    - threeseed 7y ago
      Those were for iOS not MacOS. Question is why people keep wanting MacOS to be a hardcore gaming platform.
- chaostheory 7y ago
  > I don't need small size, I have enough room. I don't need portability, I work from one place. It's like the previous generation of Apple computers were primarily designed for people in crowded metros like Tokyo. I still don't understand Apple designers' obsession with compactness for their desktops at the cost of everything else.
- binthere 7y ago
  What you are describing already exists and it's much cheaper, it just doesn't have macOS in it.
- ricardobeat 7y ago
  A mini can be all of that, minus the ECC memory. 6/8 core CPU, 64GB RAM, external SSD (at 3000MB/s if you need that), external GPU. That's a beast machine for less than $2000. I wouldn't recommend it for gaming as it doesn't shed heat fast enough. You can build a separate really good gaming PC for ~$1000 and still be far off from even the iMac Pro.

How does the Mac Mini not meet what you're asking for?

by vesrah 7y ago

How does the Mac Mini not meet what you're asking for?

I want tower case, silent and performant. I want powerful GPU for few games I'm playing. I want ECC memory. I want to put one or two HDDs along with main SSD. Mac mini does not sound like something I would like to use. I don't need small size, I have enough room. I don't need portability, I work from one place.

fooey 7y ago
I don't know why people still keep waiting for Apple to support gaming in any way at all. Worse than just not supporting gaming, they're antagonistically blocking companies like Nvidia who tried to fill in the gap with external GPUs. https://appleinsider.com/articles/19/01/18/apples-management-doesnt-want-nvidia-support-in-macos-and-thats-a-bad-sign-for-the-mac-pro https://appleinsider.com/articles/19/01/18/apples-management... If you want to game, you buy Windows, end of story.
- vbezhenar 7y ago
  Blizzard released a lot of games for macOS. Also I played Rimworld, Factorio recently and those games seems to have Mac version as well. I'm not very involved gamer, I just play sometimes and it seems that Mac supports almost all games I need.
  - mcphage 7y ago
    > Blizzard released a lot of games for macOS. Also I played Rimworld, Factorio recently and those games seems to have Mac version as well. I don't think any of those games are GPU intensive. Blizzard seems to want their games to run on as many machines as possible, and Rimworld and Factorio are both 2D.
    - vbezhenar 7y ago
      That depends on resolution. At ultra settings and 1920x1080 integrated GPU won't be able to run World of Warcraft, for example. Even Nvidia 1060 can't, and I think that it's pretty powerful GPU. And for 4K resolution probably something high-end is required.
- JimDabell 7y ago
  > I don't know why people still keep waiting for Apple to support gaming in any way at all. They just announced PS4 and Xbox One gamepad support and had Mojang on stage to demo a new version of Minecraft in this very keynote.
  - threeseed 7y ago
    Those were for iOS not MacOS. Question is why people keep wanting MacOS to be a hardcore gaming platform.
chaostheory 7y ago
> I don't need small size, I have enough room. I don't need portability, I work from one place. It's like the previous generation of Apple computers were primarily designed for people in crowded metros like Tokyo. I still don't understand Apple designers' obsession with compactness for their desktops at the cost of everything else.
binthere 7y ago
What you are describing already exists and it's much cheaper, it just doesn't have macOS in it.
ricardobeat 7y ago
A mini can be all of that, minus the ECC memory. 6/8 core CPU, 64GB RAM, external SSD (at 3000MB/s if you need that), external GPU. That's a beast machine for less than $2000. I wouldn't recommend it for gaming as it doesn't shed heat fast enough. You can build a separate really good gaming PC for ~$1000 and still be far off from even the iMac Pro.