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33 points by runesoerensen 7y ago

whalabi 7y ago
I'm just astonished by the sheer amount of changes. On Linux it seems there's maybe 1% of this in each major update (not their fault of course)
- azinman2 7y ago
  Well in some ways it is 'their fault' in that there's split development between many competing designs, which means lots of wheel reinvention that increases overall fiction, as well as burnout. It's too bad -- if things were easier and more advanced I would expect people like UX professionals to want to contribute to build up their portfolio.
  - whalabi 7y ago
    Sure, but I was referring to the amount of money being spent to develop Linux, Apple obviously has infinitely more cash and developers. And Linux has to compete with that. It's really more astonishingly impressive that Linux gets what it does, when you compare their resources to that of the absurdly wealthy and powerful Microsoft, Google, and Apple.
- Jnr 7y ago
  Was that a sarcasm or you meant "Linux Desktop apps" when using the word "Linux"? There are so many awesome things coming to Linux kernel almost every month. Linux desktop is problematic though. Hardcore developers stick to their terminal based development tools, tiling window managers, etc., so they do not really focus on consumer GUI apps that much. I use Windows, MacOS and Linux daily and I still prefer Linux desktop.
- vetinari 7y ago
  On the contrary, I don't see anything interesting there. Apple Music, TV and Podcasts coming bundled with the OS? Meh, could be put into App Store, for older macOS releases too. Marginally interesting are updates to Reminder and Notes. The separate volume for the system is interesting, but there's nothing else. On the contrary, Linux does come with interesting things, but they trickle down continuously in smaller doses, there's no once-in-a-year bombastic conference where they are introduced all at once, so the optics is different.
purephase 7y ago
The iPad as a tablet feature is pretty amazing. Curious to see what impact that will have on the tablet market. Always nice to see Apple push further on both the privacy and accessibility front too. The limits functionality is new to me. As a parent (with children too young for devices) it is appealing to have services like this by default, so that we can set the expectations early when we do introduce them. Even if it's not Apple, this will drive it into other manufacturers etc. > macOS Catalina runs in its own read-only volume, so it’s separate from all other data on your Mac, and nothing can accidentally overwrite your system files. And Gatekeeper ensures that new apps you install have been checked for known security issues before you run them, so you’re always using good software. This is particularly interesting too. I can definitely see the support implications here, but it will be interesting to see how tools like homebrew etc. play in this read-only world.
- comex 7y ago
  Homebrew has always kept itself separate from the OS (using /usr/local as a prefix), and SIP has already prevented you from modifying OS files for several years, unless you turn it off. So I think nothing happens to Homebrew at all.
- imagetic 7y ago
  I wouldn't want to be in Wacom's shoes.
tracker1 7y ago
Without proper Nvidia support, I'm effectively stuck at High Sierra.
- imagetic 7y ago
  Probably the biggest blow of them all.

33 points by runesoerensen 7y ago

I'm just astonished by the sheer amount of changes. On Linux it seems there's maybe 1% of this in each major update (not their fault of course)

azinman2 7y ago
Well in some ways it is 'their fault' in that there's split development between many competing designs, which means lots of wheel reinvention that increases overall fiction, as well as burnout. It's too bad -- if things were easier and more advanced I would expect people like UX professionals to want to contribute to build up their portfolio.
- whalabi 7y ago
  Sure, but I was referring to the amount of money being spent to develop Linux, Apple obviously has infinitely more cash and developers. And Linux has to compete with that. It's really more astonishingly impressive that Linux gets what it does, when you compare their resources to that of the absurdly wealthy and powerful Microsoft, Google, and Apple.
Jnr 7y ago
Was that a sarcasm or you meant "Linux Desktop apps" when using the word "Linux"? There are so many awesome things coming to Linux kernel almost every month. Linux desktop is problematic though. Hardcore developers stick to their terminal based development tools, tiling window managers, etc., so they do not really focus on consumer GUI apps that much. I use Windows, MacOS and Linux daily and I still prefer Linux desktop.
vetinari 7y ago
On the contrary, I don't see anything interesting there. Apple Music, TV and Podcasts coming bundled with the OS? Meh, could be put into App Store, for older macOS releases too. Marginally interesting are updates to Reminder and Notes. The separate volume for the system is interesting, but there's nothing else. On the contrary, Linux does come with interesting things, but they trickle down continuously in smaller doses, there's no once-in-a-year bombastic conference where they are introduced all at once, so the optics is different.

purephase 7y ago

The iPad as a tablet feature is pretty amazing. Curious to see what impact that will have on the tablet market. Always nice to see Apple push further on both the privacy and accessibility front too. The limits functionality is new to me. As a parent (with children too young for devices) it is appealing to have services like this by default, so that we can set the expectations early when we do introduce them. Even if it's not Apple, this will drive it into other manufacturers etc. > macOS Catalina runs in its own read-only volume, so it’s separate from all other data on your Mac, and nothing can accidentally overwrite your system files. And Gatekeeper ensures that new apps you install have been checked for known security issues before you run them, so you’re always using good software. This is particularly interesting too. I can definitely see the support implications here, but it will be interesting to see how tools like homebrew etc. play in this read-only world.

comex 7y ago
Homebrew has always kept itself separate from the OS (using /usr/local as a prefix), and SIP has already prevented you from modifying OS files for several years, unless you turn it off. So I think nothing happens to Homebrew at all.
imagetic 7y ago
I wouldn't want to be in Wacom's shoes.

tracker1 7y ago

Without proper Nvidia support, I'm effectively stuck at High Sierra.

imagetic 7y ago
Probably the biggest blow of them all.