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While I like this for privacy purpose this is pretty nafarious. There is no mechanism by which you can use this sign-on without Apple. That means you are stuck

While I like this for privacy purpose this is pretty nafarious. There is no mechanism by which you can use this sign-on without Apple. That means you are stuck with these specialized accounts you would need to re-setup once you leave apple. Just another lock-in. This is definitely not the first time apple does anything like this. If apple really cared they would make a tool for any device or operating system to enable this. But they will not.

Aaronn 7y ago
... if you looked at the screenshot of the app they showed it also had sign up without using Apple Sign in and just using a email address.
- danShumway 7y ago
  You might be misunderstanding what the poster was talking about -- it's not that you'll need an Apple ID to sign up for a site, it's that once you sign up with an Apple ID, you might not have a way to link your account to a different email address. That effectively means that you'd need to recreate your account when you move away from Apple. Of course, the other side of that is that sites are probably going to have ways to link accounts, and it likely won't be a huge deal. They certainly have no motivation to help Apple with lock in. It's not going to be any different from the process that exists today for moving associating an email with an account you created through Google/Github signin. Still, it would be nice to have a way to use this without an iPhone, or it will be a (small) extra piece of friction you just have to deal before moving ecosystems, rather than piecemeal after getting a new phone. Also note that the same exact concerns exist with Google/Facebook sign in, it's just that they aren't tied to a physical device so you only need to worry about losing them if you're making a conscious decision to delete your account.
judge2020 7y ago
This is something solvable by the service provider. Services can allow you to sign up with Apple, but hopefully they also allow you to link other social accounts and/or set up a password for login without IDP.

Aaronn 7y ago

... if you looked at the screenshot of the app they showed it also had sign up without using Apple Sign in and just using a email address.

danShumway 7y ago
You might be misunderstanding what the poster was talking about -- it's not that you'll need an Apple ID to sign up for a site, it's that once you sign up with an Apple ID, you might not have a way to link your account to a different email address. That effectively means that you'd need to recreate your account when you move away from Apple. Of course, the other side of that is that sites are probably going to have ways to link accounts, and it likely won't be a huge deal. They certainly have no motivation to help Apple with lock in. It's not going to be any different from the process that exists today for moving associating an email with an account you created through Google/Github signin. Still, it would be nice to have a way to use this without an iPhone, or it will be a (small) extra piece of friction you just have to deal before moving ecosystems, rather than piecemeal after getting a new phone. Also note that the same exact concerns exist with Google/Facebook sign in, it's just that they aren't tied to a physical device so you only need to worry about losing them if you're making a conscious decision to delete your account.

judge2020 7y ago

This is something solvable by the service provider. Services can allow you to sign up with Apple, but hopefully they also allow you to link other social accounts and/or set up a password for login without IDP.