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And being done by Apple, most services can’t just reject these the way they do with Mailinator addresses, since it would be throwing away a giant chunk of their
by anbop 7y ago
And being done by Apple, most services can’t just reject these the way they do with Mailinator addresses, since it would be throwing away a giant chunk of their revenue. Apps with huge consumer demand like Uber or Facebook could get away with it, but not the vast majority of apps.
- jiveturkey 7y agoI think this will be proven wrong. Do you think that the folks using Mailinator are strictly non-Apple users? As an Apple user that signs up with a mailinator ID, if rejected I either move on or use a more palatable address, as the case may be depending on my desire to use that service. The same will hold true for any private appleid address.
- untog 7y agoYou're missing the scale. Mailinator users are a very small percentage of users, while Apple Sign In users are likely to represent a much larger slice of your potential users, given that you have a honking great button there waiting for them.
- anbop 7y agoI’d say that one month from release, 100 times as many people will know about Sign in With Apple as have ever used Mailinator. And Apple marketing will drill into them why they should use it, and mark apps in the App Store that support it. Eventually for experimental apps that they are not 100% decided on getting, there will be a large fraction of users who simply won’t try an app that doesn’t support it.
- dan-robertson 7y agoI think there are two differences here: 1. Services have little incentive to support mailinator, and indeed may deliberately choose not to if they feel it is leading to signups they don’t like. On the other hand it would be hard to argue with an incentive like the App Store requiring you to support apple’s service. 2. Because the service is built in to apple’s systems there seems to be an implicit contract that apple wont let it be abused for the purposes that many sites claim mailinator is used for (because it isn’t useful to apple customers if sites don’t trust it and it). So they might be more willing to accept these email addresses. I guess neither of these help services like mailinator gain credibility.
- _bxg1 7y agoRight. One of the big things about Apple getting into something, even if it's been done before, is that they carry enough influence to strongarm other companies into respecting their paying customers. It's great.
- NateEag 7y agoIt strikes me as terrifying, personally, but to each their own. I have been responsible for creating and maintaining an app generation system. Among other things, it taught me that App Store Connect has many sharp edges showing how easy it is to abuse the kind of power you've correctly pointed out Apple has.
- _bxg1 7y agoIn a world where every other tech company swindles and manipulates consumers at every opportunity, I'm happy that at least one is incentivized to do the opposite, and has the power to do so.
- baroffoos 7y agoApple swindles and manipulates the user to buying a new device whenever there is any fault at all because everything is glued and soldered together so fixing anything requires buying half of the device.
- katbyte 7y agoI don’t think that is a fair comparison. Aside from hardware va software I personally have never had an issue with apple products last 3 or more years. Get apple care and they just fix or replace it when anything goes wrong. Better experience then my friends seem to have with other manufactures.
- baroffoos 7y agoI have a collection of broken apple products from other people who were going to throw them out. Usually they have a fairly minor issue but its just about impossible to fix because of the use of insane amounts of glue or one way clips
- pluffycat 7y agoI’m tired of gmail and hotmail forcing me to sign up using my personal cell phone number. Finally I can create throwaway emails without resorting to gmail!