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Because that story is bollocks I don't want to be unfriendly, but part of your comment is bollocks, too. "the extent that Gmail is profiling you and surveillin

by Radle 7y ago

Because that story is bollocks I don't want to be unfriendly, but part of your comment is bollocks, too. "the extent that Gmail is profiling you and surveilling your email" - A serious description of the fundamental technology that a spam filter uses. The purchase history that google shows me clearly says that google is only showing this to me, this information will not be shared. See screenshot from my account https://ibb.co/jhkCSjK https://ibb.co/jhkCSjK Well the truth is, most companies are a lot more hostile with your data than google. Privacy centric services are incredible dangerous. We have seen that VPNs always log your data. (And thereby are completely redundant) You remember lulzsec? https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/09/lulzsec-hacker-exposed-service-he-thought-would-hide-him/337545/ https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/09/lulzs... Overall the purchases page is only there to give me a better overview over my data. And I am fine with google having my data. Most companies are less trustworthy than google. Splitting my data over dozens of other services is a guarantee that one of them will sell my data to the outside. The price of using google is that google gets free data from you. The pro is that this data is top secure and only used to serve targeted ads and confirm to subpoenas. Most companies are just going to sell your data to anyone willing to pay for it, including bounty killers. https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/8/18174024/att-sprint-t-mobile-scandal-phone-location-tracking-black-market-bounty-hunters-privacy-securus https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/8/18174024/att-sprint-t-mobi... So yes. Google isn't good, but I can clearly tell what they are doing and what they are not doing. I trust google not to sell my data because they can get more value out of my data using it themselves and I actually don't have a problem with (reasonable) targeted ads.

cantrevealname 7y ago
> description of the fundamental technology that a spam filter uses Privacy-centric email providers don't retain any data from your emails after scanning for spam. Gmail does, and in unexpected places that I keep discovering and hearing about, and as far as I know, there is no Gmail switch to say, "Do the spam filtering but don't keep any data". > google is only showing this to me, this information will not be shared They can easily change their own policy on that, and they regularly do change their policy. Also, as you already mentioned, they'll share it after a subpoena. I don't want them to have or keep that data at all.
- lern_too_spel 7y ago
  > Privacy-centric email providers don't retain any data from your emails after scanning for spam. Privacy-centric email providers send your emails to /dev/null after they have been scanned for spam? Your definition is absurd.

by Radle 7y ago

cantrevealname 7y ago

> description of the fundamental technology that a spam filter uses Privacy-centric email providers don't retain any data from your emails after scanning for spam. Gmail does, and in unexpected places that I keep discovering and hearing about, and as far as I know, there is no Gmail switch to say, "Do the spam filtering but don't keep any data". > google is only showing this to me, this information will not be shared They can easily change their own policy on that, and they regularly do change their policy. Also, as you already mentioned, they'll share it after a subpoena. I don't want them to have or keep that data at all.

lern_too_spel 7y ago
> Privacy-centric email providers don't retain any data from your emails after scanning for spam. Privacy-centric email providers send your emails to /dev/null after they have been scanned for spam? Your definition is absurd.