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Absurd. > ...and I don't see what Chrome brings to the table that an older Linux PC with Firefox didn't. Are you serious? You can't see that Chrome OS is fas

by cryptoz 16y ago

Absurd. > ...and I don't see what Chrome brings to the table that an older Linux PC with Firefox didn't. Are you serious? You can't see that Chrome OS is faster? Easier? As in: much, much easier? People are very afraid of Linux - they think they won't know how to use it if they try, and this is true some of the time. But everyone will immediately know how to use Chrome OS. > 1. Wireless networks aren't reliable. First, they're totally reliable for me. I've not had interruptions in...well, a long long time. It has been months or years since I've wanted wireless connectivity but couldn't have it. Second, the author claims that Android apps handle this gracefully but Chrome apps don't. That's garbage. First, that problem has nothing to do with the platform. Second, Google is pushing hard to make Chrome OS work well offline. They'll deliver offline Docs, NY Times already has a fully-offline version working, etc. > "Living in the cloud" will bust your data cap. Short term problem. Again, this has nothing to do with Chrome OS. You don't think your data caps will get higher and higher as more bandwidth becomes available and consumers demand more and more? I promise you than in 1 year, the same amount of wireless data will cost less than it does today. > 3. Web technologies suck for many app categories, especially games. Historically true, but changing rapidly. This author is stuck in the past. In three years, HTML5 support will be old news; it'll be in every browser, fast and much better than it is today.

byoung2 16y ago
First, they're totally reliable for me. I've not had interruptions in...well, a long long time. It has been months or years since I've wanted wireless connectivity but couldn't have it. I'm with you there. There was a period in 2007 where I used Sprint 3G as my primary connection. Since then I've used it as my primary connection when not at home (I have never connected to a public wifi hotspot), and I never have connectivity problems, even when traveling to Mexico or the Caribbean. As far as the data cap goes, I'm grandfathered into an unlimited 3g plan, but new 4g plans like I have on my Evo are unlimited for everyone, no 5gb cap.
TomOfTTB 16y ago
This author is kind of known for flamebait. I pulled up a list of his columns I found (http://www.pcmag.com/category2/0,2806,2086722,00.asp http://www.pcmag.com/category2/0,2806,2086722,00.asp). Titles include... Samsung to Apple: The Battle is On Google Acknowledges That Verizon Owns Your Internet AT&T's Insane Service Plan Strategy Apple's iPad Could Kill the Mac iTunes Store Still Has Plenty of Porn
- GrandMasterBirt 16y ago
  I think this guy has a point, from first hand experience with the ChromeOS. I don't see the value.
  - TomOfTTB 16y ago
    I was more commenting on his delivery and the fact that it seems to have annoyed Cryptoz. So what I was saying was more "Hey Cryptoz don't get so annoyed because then you're giving him what he wants" than "his points are completely invalid". I don't really agree with his points but they are valid for a small group of people who don't have ready access to WiFi.
GrandMasterBirt 16y ago
Let me clear things up for the... less open minded: ChromeOS is basically bigger than an iPad plus a keyboard. Battery life is close. ChromeOS starting before you even think of opening the lid is moot. Nobody has problems with iPad startup. EVER. Unless you depleted 100%. A child can figure out the iPad. Ok lets rewind a bit.... @$#$%$#%#%$#%#$.... ok... So basically you have TWO choices for online connectivity: Wifi OR Verizon. Verizon plans are bullshit at best. They are overpriced 3g pieces of shit. If I could pay for 1 gig and use as I please until it runs out, great, but NOOOO, its 1 gig expires in 1 month. A 1 day unlim pass for 10 bucks? Holy shit! Clear wireless gives a unlimited usb wifi 4g modem for 30 bucks a month. Thats right 4g and its pretty much 2-4 bars EVERYWHERE in nyc. And no data caps. But of course can't use that shit since the chromeos does not support it. I guess its all over the place. A crippled iPad + keyboard. A crippled laptop since you are limited to choices for wireless isp (can't even put in a 4g card because there is no slot there). Hold on it gets better. The wifi reciever gets 3 fucking bars of service when sitting RIGHT NEXT TO THE WIRELESS ROUTER. Thats a problem. There is also no ethernet jack so at work since I can't set up microsoft authentication for our wifi (not supported), but can use an ethernet jack, I can't use the laptop (yay). Lets keep going. > Web technologies suck... bla bla bla... Yea not only do they suck the performance on that laptop is ATTROCIOUS. Those webapps need to be optimized to no fucking end before they can be run "smoothly" in any sense of the word. And adobe needs to improve linux flash performance significantly. So far the only use I got out of the chrome os laptop is my daughter playing the PBS spelling games. She loves them. Except in 5 minutes memory leaks kick in and the laptop is unusable. Basically this laptop solves zero percent of my needs (ok fine 10%)

by cryptoz 16y ago

byoung2 16y ago

First, they're totally reliable for me. I've not had interruptions in...well, a long long time. It has been months or years since I've wanted wireless connectivity but couldn't have it. I'm with you there. There was a period in 2007 where I used Sprint 3G as my primary connection. Since then I've used it as my primary connection when not at home (I have never connected to a public wifi hotspot), and I never have connectivity problems, even when traveling to Mexico or the Caribbean. As far as the data cap goes, I'm grandfathered into an unlimited 3g plan, but new 4g plans like I have on my Evo are unlimited for everyone, no 5gb cap.

TomOfTTB 16y ago

This author is kind of known for flamebait. I pulled up a list of his columns I found (http://www.pcmag.com/category2/0,2806,2086722,00.asp http://www.pcmag.com/category2/0,2806,2086722,00.asp). Titles include... Samsung to Apple: The Battle is On Google Acknowledges That Verizon Owns Your Internet AT&T's Insane Service Plan Strategy Apple's iPad Could Kill the Mac iTunes Store Still Has Plenty of Porn

GrandMasterBirt 16y ago
I think this guy has a point, from first hand experience with the ChromeOS. I don't see the value.
- TomOfTTB 16y ago
  I was more commenting on his delivery and the fact that it seems to have annoyed Cryptoz. So what I was saying was more "Hey Cryptoz don't get so annoyed because then you're giving him what he wants" than "his points are completely invalid". I don't really agree with his points but they are valid for a small group of people who don't have ready access to WiFi.

GrandMasterBirt 16y ago

Let me clear things up for the... less open minded: ChromeOS is basically bigger than an iPad plus a keyboard. Battery life is close. ChromeOS starting before you even think of opening the lid is moot. Nobody has problems with iPad startup. EVER. Unless you depleted 100%. A child can figure out the iPad. Ok lets rewind a bit.... @$#$%$#%#%$#%#$.... ok... So basically you have TWO choices for online connectivity: Wifi OR Verizon. Verizon plans are bullshit at best. They are overpriced 3g pieces of shit. If I could pay for 1 gig and use as I please until it runs out, great, but NOOOO, its 1 gig expires in 1 month. A 1 day unlim pass for 10 bucks? Holy shit! Clear wireless gives a unlimited usb wifi 4g modem for 30 bucks a month. Thats right 4g and its pretty much 2-4 bars EVERYWHERE in nyc. And no data caps. But of course can't use that shit since the chromeos does not support it. I guess its all over the place. A crippled iPad + keyboard. A crippled laptop since you are limited to choices for wireless isp (can't even put in a 4g card because there is no slot there). Hold on it gets better. The wifi reciever gets 3 fucking bars of service when sitting RIGHT NEXT TO THE WIRELESS ROUTER. Thats a problem. There is also no ethernet jack so at work since I can't set up microsoft authentication for our wifi (not supported), but can use an ethernet jack, I can't use the laptop (yay). Lets keep going. > Web technologies suck... bla bla bla... Yea not only do they suck the performance on that laptop is ATTROCIOUS. Those webapps need to be optimized to no fucking end before they can be run "smoothly" in any sense of the word. And adobe needs to improve linux flash performance significantly. So far the only use I got out of the chrome os laptop is my daughter playing the PBS spelling games. She loves them. Except in 5 minutes memory leaks kick in and the laptop is unusable. Basically this laptop solves zero percent of my needs (ok fine 10%)