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For one, you'll get the same problems as all the homeless pouring into California, or poorer Central Americans pouring over the border, and the subsequent backl

For one, you'll get the same problems as all the homeless pouring into California, or poorer Central Americans pouring over the border, and the subsequent backlash. Democracies will not support the sort of development model that China has pursued of massive wealth transfer and development of the hinterlands. Developed areas will want to wall themselves off but less developed areas will want populist policies. Add on top of that ethnic issues that would be easily exploitable by demagogues. More likely than not the country falls apart. Don't be so smug, the US and EU are only getting a small taste of the sort of problems that China has been facing for several thousand years as a diverse centralized state, and are already resorting to the sort of things that China ended up having to do with respect to social control and stability.

komali2 7y ago
Why doesn't India have this problem?
- pishpash 7y ago
  Well yes, the other model is India where they tolerate certain problems and let them go on forever, but people can bitch about it. Analogous to the phenomenon of adults peeing and doing drugs on the streets of downtown SF. Not saying it's better or worse in the end but at the least, the experiment goes on.
  - komali2 7y ago
    India is trying very hard to solve their problems, I'm curious where you get the idea that they're letting them "go on forever." https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/03/world/asia/india-toilet-movie.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/03/world/asia/india-toilet-m... Regarding peeing specifically, India has a Nationwide push for increasing toilet infrastructure. The change over the past five years, let alone ten, is dramatic. Possibly faster than anything in human history. I also don't understand why you think nobody is doing anything about people using the restroom on the streets of SF - new bathroom trailers are being added. It's not much but it's something, and more are coming. If you have other ideas, would you like to join me tomorrow at 2pm for the next board of supervisors meeting to present them to the city?
pcwalton 7y ago
Homeless people aren't pouring into California. Most of the homeless are natives.

komali2 7y ago

Why doesn't India have this problem?

pishpash 7y ago
Well yes, the other model is India where they tolerate certain problems and let them go on forever, but people can bitch about it. Analogous to the phenomenon of adults peeing and doing drugs on the streets of downtown SF. Not saying it's better or worse in the end but at the least, the experiment goes on.
- komali2 7y ago
  India is trying very hard to solve their problems, I'm curious where you get the idea that they're letting them "go on forever." https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/03/world/asia/india-toilet-movie.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/03/world/asia/india-toilet-m... Regarding peeing specifically, India has a Nationwide push for increasing toilet infrastructure. The change over the past five years, let alone ten, is dramatic. Possibly faster than anything in human history. I also don't understand why you think nobody is doing anything about people using the restroom on the streets of SF - new bathroom trailers are being added. It's not much but it's something, and more are coming. If you have other ideas, would you like to join me tomorrow at 2pm for the next board of supervisors meeting to present them to the city?

pcwalton 7y ago

Homeless people aren't pouring into California. Most of the homeless are natives.