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It's only a tiny, tiny part of science in a country. Ussr had nowhere close to the growth china as, even when recalibrating to the population size. The ussr eco

It's only a tiny, tiny part of science in a country. Ussr had nowhere close to the growth china as, even when recalibrating to the population size. The ussr economy was dying, with no innovation and no production outside of the war effort.

cat199 7y ago
Not a field expert, but I'm fairly sure that China's vast economic growth is due largely to trade normalization with democratic countries in the last 20 years or so that happened after the fall of the USSR. Both were subject to the 'dont trade with communists' policy during the time they both existed..
- oblio 7y ago
  China actually turned the ship around thanks to Deng Xiaoping. It wasn't just trade normalization, it was also their adoption of many free market practices that allowed them to be competitive. Compare and contrast with Russia.
  - AstralStorm 7y ago
    Funny enough Russia is even more capitalist than China. However, its capitalism is focused on resources and agriculture (esp. fishing) sector and not manufacturing (except weapons where they excel) - and keeps quite a bit of EU in stranglehold.
  - cat199 7y ago
    Hmm. interesting. But wasn't this the same time as glasnost/perestroika? And again, this doesn't happen in a vacuum.. Was non-communist policy (e.g the west) more favorable to china than russia?
AstralStorm 7y ago
Economy was dying but not for lack of innovation. Mostly because certain very poor agricultural decisions caused repeated famines and further social unrest. Other than that it is telling that USSR was essentially a close second to USA for most of its existence, sometimes even at the forefront. The problem was management in the lower base levels like building industry, especially agriculture and some low level factory work, like parts or pieces. R&D and military industry was excellent.

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It's only a tiny, tiny part of science in a country. Ussr had nowhere close to the growth china as, even when recalibrating to the population size. The ussr eco

by sametmax 7y ago

cat199 7y ago
Not a field expert, but I'm fairly sure that China's vast economic growth is due largely to trade normalization with democratic countries in the last 20 years or so that happened after the fall of the USSR. Both were subject to the 'dont trade with communists' policy during the time they both existed..
- oblio 7y ago
  China actually turned the ship around thanks to Deng Xiaoping. It wasn't just trade normalization, it was also their adoption of many free market practices that allowed them to be competitive. Compare and contrast with Russia.
  - AstralStorm 7y ago
    Funny enough Russia is even more capitalist than China. However, its capitalism is focused on resources and agriculture (esp. fishing) sector and not manufacturing (except weapons where they excel) - and keeps quite a bit of EU in stranglehold.
  - cat199 7y ago
    Hmm. interesting. But wasn't this the same time as glasnost/perestroika? And again, this doesn't happen in a vacuum.. Was non-communist policy (e.g the west) more favorable to china than russia?
AstralStorm 7y ago
Economy was dying but not for lack of innovation. Mostly because certain very poor agricultural decisions caused repeated famines and further social unrest. Other than that it is telling that USSR was essentially a close second to USA for most of its existence, sometimes even at the forefront. The problem was management in the lower base levels like building industry, especially agriculture and some low level factory work, like parts or pieces. R&D and military industry was excellent.