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Isn't this ignoring the more obvious solution? Why not nationalise them? The value of these networks is in the users. Not the companies themselves.

syshum 7y ago
Nationalizing them is neither obvious nor a solution. Nationalizing them would make any problems, real or perceived, 100x worse.
- adamc 7y ago
  It would be more persuasive if you actually made the argument, rather than just asserting the conclusion.
  - syshum 7y ago
    Responding in detail as to why nationalization is a bad idea is on the same level has responding to comment about why the earth is not flat. The evidence is clear, widely known, and most sane people do not suggest we should nationalize things, nor that the earth is flat
    - smt88 7y ago
      You seem to think that every highly developed country is insane (other than the US)... http://factmyth.com/factoids/the-us-is-the-only-very-highly-developed-country-without-universal-healthcare/ http://factmyth.com/factoids/the-us-is-the-only-very-highly-...
      - syshum 7y ago
        >>You seem to think that every highly developed country is insane (other than the US)... You are correct I do. Time will prove me right as well given that most of those nations have very real and every systemic issues with their healthcare system that are pushed under the rug and never talked about because it goes against the narrative that Government run healthcare is best thing ever
        smt88 7y ago
        What are these issues? Their outcomes are better than ours, and they pay less per person. The UK has had nationalized health care for 70 years. Sweden, Iceland, Norway, Denmark, and Finland are not far behind (50+ years for each of those). If these problems you're describing were caused by nationalization, wouldn't we have seen them already? 50-70 years is a remarkably long time for a national social program to run without running into any fatal issues.
idlewords 7y ago
Who would run them? Amtrak? The post office?

syshum 7y ago

Nationalizing them is neither obvious nor a solution. Nationalizing them would make any problems, real or perceived, 100x worse.

adamc 7y ago
It would be more persuasive if you actually made the argument, rather than just asserting the conclusion.
- syshum 7y ago
  Responding in detail as to why nationalization is a bad idea is on the same level has responding to comment about why the earth is not flat. The evidence is clear, widely known, and most sane people do not suggest we should nationalize things, nor that the earth is flat
  - smt88 7y ago
    You seem to think that every highly developed country is insane (other than the US)... http://factmyth.com/factoids/the-us-is-the-only-very-highly-developed-country-without-universal-healthcare/ http://factmyth.com/factoids/the-us-is-the-only-very-highly-...
    - syshum 7y ago
      >>You seem to think that every highly developed country is insane (other than the US)... You are correct I do. Time will prove me right as well given that most of those nations have very real and every systemic issues with their healthcare system that are pushed under the rug and never talked about because it goes against the narrative that Government run healthcare is best thing ever
      - smt88 7y ago
        What are these issues? Their outcomes are better than ours, and they pay less per person. The UK has had nationalized health care for 70 years. Sweden, Iceland, Norway, Denmark, and Finland are not far behind (50+ years for each of those). If these problems you're describing were caused by nationalization, wouldn't we have seen them already? 50-70 years is a remarkably long time for a national social program to run without running into any fatal issues.

idlewords 7y ago

Who would run them? Amtrak? The post office?