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I've never understood the logic of "playing fair". No one plays "fair". Please name me 1 country who plays "fair". China does what everyone else does, but usua
by rytor718 7y ago
I've never understood the logic of "playing fair". No one plays "fair". Please name me 1 country who plays "fair".
China does what everyone else does, but usually better in the long game. I both admire it and am terrified by it. We helped make this game. And we can't simply talk about fairness when we're not the benefactors.
- NicoJuicy 7y agoIt's not the same game, it's state capitalism.
- hangonhn 7y agoAgreed. But that's not what I really mean. Perhaps it was a bad choice of words on my part. But if most of us see the asymmetry of the relationship, then we should do what we can to rebalance it so that the relationship is to the benefit of both. Or maybe what I should say is that if our trade relationship is not to the long term benefit of our country, we should seek to renegotiate it.
- DiogenesKynikos 7y agoSome would say the major asymmetry is that the United States is a developed economy, while China is a developing economy. China has been able to develop by attracting foreign investment, based on its low wages and good infrastructure. However, China doesn't want to get stuck in this low stage of development, and wants to actually develop domestic companies that can compete internationally. Completely opening up the internal market is not necessarily a good way to achieve that goal. Most developed countries got to where they are now with the aid of protectionist policies. Toyota wouldn't exist if Japan had completely opened its market. GM, Ford and Chrysler would have strangled Toyota in the bathtub.