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Before people complain (like last time) on why Foone doesn't just blog... https://twitter.com/Foone/status/1135439789090574338 https://twitter.com/Foone/status

Before people complain (like last time) on why Foone doesn't just blog... https://twitter.com/Foone/status/1135439789090574338 https://twitter.com/Foone/status/1135439789090574338 https://twitter.com/foone/status/1100068394001256448 https://twitter.com/foone/status/1100068394001256448 https://twitter.com/Foone/status/1066547670477488128 https://twitter.com/Foone/status/1066547670477488128

beamatronic 7y ago
We need a client that formats a series of twitter posts into a single blog post
- _Microft 7y ago
  There is at least one Twitter bot (@ThreadReaderApp) which does that. People can mention its name and add "unroll" as comment and it produces a website with the tweets compiled. Pasting a link to a tweet into a field on their frontpage gives the same result: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1135354815259656192.html https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1135354815259656192.html Edit: some Twitter users do not like services like this because people can neither interact with them on these pages nor will the posters get stats how often it was accessed. They consider it stealing their content. I like them (as user, not content creator) because I like to archive interesting things as PDFs, since you never know if or when something will go away. You might want to use Firefox' reader mode or clean up the page using Stylus or the built-in web development tools before printing to remove all the junk. When Firefox does not offer to open reader mode on some pages, you can still access it by prepending about:reader?url= to the url. It works anyways most of the time. It even works as search shortcut, so you can add something like read as keyword that points to about:reader?url=%S , usage is then read <url goes here> in the adress bar.
  - _Microft 7y ago
    One more thing regarding Stylus: you can conditionally apply custom styles by adding a parameter to the rule, so you can sanitize e.g. the Twitter thread UI when you want to screenshot them without sacrificing the UI for normal use. Here's an example that is triggered by appending ?simple to a direct link to a tweet. @-moz-document regexp("https://twitter.com/.*\\?simple") { .translate-button, .tweet-stats-container, .stream-item-footer, .ProfileTweet-actionList, .inline-reply-tweetbox-container, .UserNameBreak, .tweet-timestamp { display: none; } .tweet .time::before { content: ""; } }
aflag 7y ago
tl;dr he had ADHD. So he can't ever finish a blog post, but twitter works for him. Which is fair enough.
- prepend 7y ago
  It’s good he found something that works, but that is an illogical explanation. How does he have too much ADHD to save drafts one paragraph at a time, but not enough to stop him from tinkering with an awesome thrift store computer for hours?
  - Jaruzel 7y ago
    ADHD is a bit like autism, in that many sufferers can obsess over a single thing/topic/interest, but be unable to focus on anything else.
  - NathanWilliams 7y ago
    Ah, so I take it you don’t have ADHD then? Tinkering is something you can lose touch with time on. Writing brings with it self doubt, worry about how it will be read. I send very clear emails (or so my colleagues tell me), but each one takes forever to write.
    - prepend 7y ago
      I do have ADHD, it’s odd that you would presume I don’t. This is why I thought the “too adhd to blog” is odd because there are blogging platforms easier than twitter. Even Wordpress has drafts where you can update one sentence at a time. All the futzing and sequencing to get this out of twitter requires lots of effort that seems, to me, similar or greater effort than other formats that wouldn’t make me abandon an otherwise interesting post.
      - NathanWilliams 7y ago
        My apologies, didn’t meant to assume you didn’t. I guess I should have stated how I can empathise with the author, as I can spend a lot of time perfecting something longer like a blog, but a twitter thread is incremental without the option to go back and edit.
noobermin 7y ago
Seriously though, if you are one twitter, Foone is one of the best people you can follow.
- thrower123 7y ago
  The kind of stuff Foone turns up, and the rate that the weird equipment is aquired, dissassembled, and analyzed, not to mention the digital forensics tearing into obscure old game roms to extract assets for the name generator project, is truly prodigious. Just an insane quantity of high quality output.
- a1k0n 7y ago
  I love @foone's content, but I had to unfollow him because his output is so prodigious my entire Twitter feed became just @foone. On second thought, having seen the rest of what Twitter has to offer, that's not such a bad thing...
prepend 7y ago
Self awareness helps, but it doesn’t make it any less frustrating or easier to read because of vis chosen format. It’s a free world and whatnot, but Twitter is a poor medium for these kinds of stories. It took me at least twice as long due to scrolling, squinting, etc.
- Doxin 7y ago
  So given the choice between no content or oddly formatted content you'd go for no content?
  - hycaria 7y ago
    I've gone through the hurdle of reading it, and as someone just curious and not specifically interested in the topic, in the end more it was more pain than pleasure. Also there's a great tool made to settle this endless dispute : https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1135354815259656192.html https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1135354815259656192.html But seeing how chronically and rudely the guy cries about this issue, without even looking for the halfway compromise, he just looks like a jerk to me. And I'm not impressed enough by the content to get over it in the future.
    - prepend 7y ago
      Thanks for the reference to threadreaderapp.
    - kennyadam 7y ago
      Agreed. Twitter is terrible for long-form content, end of story. They could easily write chunks of a blog, in the same size as a tweet, one-by-one, then publish when it's all ready. I think it's just their 'thing' now and it must be nice to have loads of people jump to your defence because you said ADHD. It's like they have an army of people ready to be offended on their behalf.
      - tty2300 7y ago
        Or even just update the blog post repeatedly like it was a tweet. At least at the end it wouldnt have horrible ux
brokenkebab 7y ago
Anyone with ADHD: is there a difference between writing a hundred of lines in Twitter, and writing the same amount of text, but published in one piece? Just curious.
- rahkiin 7y ago
  The tweets likely align with his thought process. I can align myself with it, I do rambling too, just not often online. However when i write a bigger text I would keep re-reading and correcting it. For a message like this that’s fine but it gets a bit harder with longer texts. I just try to cope with it though instead of giving in. The problem here for readers is probably not the tweeting but the rambling in the tweets (incoherent text)
- gfosco 7y ago
  Big difference. If you're tweeting stream of consciousness, it's one thought at a time, published and quickly beyond reach of editing, and you move on to the next thought. One could spend hours re-reading and editing a blog post.
- floatingatoll 7y ago
  Readers of a Twitter stream of thought generally realize that they’re dealing with a loosely connected series of thoughts. While individual appreciation of this style of writing varies, there’s no confusion about what’s going on. Writing in that manner in a blog post would be taken more poorly, as we generally have higher structural expectations of “a blog post” than we do of “a Twitter thread”. Simply writing one paragraph per tweet into an append-only post would not be equivalent. So the readability might improve for removing Twitter’s UI, but then the content would be evaluated as an “essay” rather than as a “stream of consciousness”.
- aidenn0 7y ago
  As someone with ADHD, I can say it's nearly impossible for me to read a post split up into tweets like this. Too many comments between each post. [edit] someone posted https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1135354815259656192.html https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1135354815259656192.html elsewhere in the comments, and this is perfectly readable for me.
cmroanirgo 7y ago
> Not to humblebrag or anything, but my favorite part of getting posted on hackernews or reddit is that EVERY SINGLE TIME there's one highly-ranked reply that's "jesus man, this could have been a blog post! why make 20 tweets when you can make one blog post?" > CAUSE I CAN'T MAKE A BLOG POST, GOD DAMN IT. I have ADHD. I have bad ADHD that is being treated, and the treatment is NOT WORKING TERRIBLY WELL. I cannot focus on writing blog posts. it will not happen. > if I try to make a blog post, it'll end up being abandoned and unfinished, as I am unable to edit it into something readable and postable. so if I went 100% to blogs: You would get: no content I would get: lots of unfinished drafts and a feeling of being a useless waste > but I can do rambly tweet threads. they don't require a lot of attention for a long time, they don't have the endless editing I get into with blog posts, I can do them. I do them a bunch! They're just rambly and twitter, which some people don't like. > so given this is a choice between two options, I can either: 1. make rambly tweet-threads that some people hate and wish were blogs 2. make no blog posts > I am sorry that I am picking #1, but it's really best for everyone. ... and so on. So, it's apparently due to ADHD...
dang 7y ago
This is one of those subthreads that show how offtopicness is preserved under negation.

beamatronic 7y ago

We need a client that formats a series of twitter posts into a single blog post

_Microft 7y ago
There is at least one Twitter bot (@ThreadReaderApp) which does that. People can mention its name and add "unroll" as comment and it produces a website with the tweets compiled. Pasting a link to a tweet into a field on their frontpage gives the same result: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1135354815259656192.html https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1135354815259656192.html Edit: some Twitter users do not like services like this because people can neither interact with them on these pages nor will the posters get stats how often it was accessed. They consider it stealing their content. I like them (as user, not content creator) because I like to archive interesting things as PDFs, since you never know if or when something will go away. You might want to use Firefox' reader mode or clean up the page using Stylus or the built-in web development tools before printing to remove all the junk. When Firefox does not offer to open reader mode on some pages, you can still access it by prepending about:reader?url= to the url. It works anyways most of the time. It even works as search shortcut, so you can add something like read as keyword that points to about:reader?url=%S , usage is then read <url goes here> in the adress bar.
- _Microft 7y ago
  One more thing regarding Stylus: you can conditionally apply custom styles by adding a parameter to the rule, so you can sanitize e.g. the Twitter thread UI when you want to screenshot them without sacrificing the UI for normal use. Here's an example that is triggered by appending ?simple to a direct link to a tweet. @-moz-document regexp("https://twitter.com/.*\\?simple") { .translate-button, .tweet-stats-container, .stream-item-footer, .ProfileTweet-actionList, .inline-reply-tweetbox-container, .UserNameBreak, .tweet-timestamp { display: none; } .tweet .time::before { content: ""; } }

aflag 7y ago

tl;dr he had ADHD. So he can't ever finish a blog post, but twitter works for him. Which is fair enough.

prepend 7y ago
It’s good he found something that works, but that is an illogical explanation. How does he have too much ADHD to save drafts one paragraph at a time, but not enough to stop him from tinkering with an awesome thrift store computer for hours?
- Jaruzel 7y ago
  ADHD is a bit like autism, in that many sufferers can obsess over a single thing/topic/interest, but be unable to focus on anything else.
- NathanWilliams 7y ago
  Ah, so I take it you don’t have ADHD then? Tinkering is something you can lose touch with time on. Writing brings with it self doubt, worry about how it will be read. I send very clear emails (or so my colleagues tell me), but each one takes forever to write.
  - prepend 7y ago
    I do have ADHD, it’s odd that you would presume I don’t. This is why I thought the “too adhd to blog” is odd because there are blogging platforms easier than twitter. Even Wordpress has drafts where you can update one sentence at a time. All the futzing and sequencing to get this out of twitter requires lots of effort that seems, to me, similar or greater effort than other formats that wouldn’t make me abandon an otherwise interesting post.
    - NathanWilliams 7y ago
      My apologies, didn’t meant to assume you didn’t. I guess I should have stated how I can empathise with the author, as I can spend a lot of time perfecting something longer like a blog, but a twitter thread is incremental without the option to go back and edit.

noobermin 7y ago

Seriously though, if you are one twitter, Foone is one of the best people you can follow.

thrower123 7y ago
The kind of stuff Foone turns up, and the rate that the weird equipment is aquired, dissassembled, and analyzed, not to mention the digital forensics tearing into obscure old game roms to extract assets for the name generator project, is truly prodigious. Just an insane quantity of high quality output.
a1k0n 7y ago
I love @foone's content, but I had to unfollow him because his output is so prodigious my entire Twitter feed became just @foone. On second thought, having seen the rest of what Twitter has to offer, that's not such a bad thing...

prepend 7y ago

Self awareness helps, but it doesn’t make it any less frustrating or easier to read because of vis chosen format. It’s a free world and whatnot, but Twitter is a poor medium for these kinds of stories. It took me at least twice as long due to scrolling, squinting, etc.

Doxin 7y ago
So given the choice between no content or oddly formatted content you'd go for no content?
- hycaria 7y ago
  I've gone through the hurdle of reading it, and as someone just curious and not specifically interested in the topic, in the end more it was more pain than pleasure. Also there's a great tool made to settle this endless dispute : https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1135354815259656192.html https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1135354815259656192.html But seeing how chronically and rudely the guy cries about this issue, without even looking for the halfway compromise, he just looks like a jerk to me. And I'm not impressed enough by the content to get over it in the future.
  - prepend 7y ago
    Thanks for the reference to threadreaderapp.
  - kennyadam 7y ago
    Agreed. Twitter is terrible for long-form content, end of story. They could easily write chunks of a blog, in the same size as a tweet, one-by-one, then publish when it's all ready. I think it's just their 'thing' now and it must be nice to have loads of people jump to your defence because you said ADHD. It's like they have an army of people ready to be offended on their behalf.
    - tty2300 7y ago
      Or even just update the blog post repeatedly like it was a tweet. At least at the end it wouldnt have horrible ux

brokenkebab 7y ago

Anyone with ADHD: is there a difference between writing a hundred of lines in Twitter, and writing the same amount of text, but published in one piece? Just curious.

rahkiin 7y ago
The tweets likely align with his thought process. I can align myself with it, I do rambling too, just not often online. However when i write a bigger text I would keep re-reading and correcting it. For a message like this that’s fine but it gets a bit harder with longer texts. I just try to cope with it though instead of giving in. The problem here for readers is probably not the tweeting but the rambling in the tweets (incoherent text)
gfosco 7y ago
Big difference. If you're tweeting stream of consciousness, it's one thought at a time, published and quickly beyond reach of editing, and you move on to the next thought. One could spend hours re-reading and editing a blog post.
floatingatoll 7y ago
Readers of a Twitter stream of thought generally realize that they’re dealing with a loosely connected series of thoughts. While individual appreciation of this style of writing varies, there’s no confusion about what’s going on. Writing in that manner in a blog post would be taken more poorly, as we generally have higher structural expectations of “a blog post” than we do of “a Twitter thread”. Simply writing one paragraph per tweet into an append-only post would not be equivalent. So the readability might improve for removing Twitter’s UI, but then the content would be evaluated as an “essay” rather than as a “stream of consciousness”.
aidenn0 7y ago
As someone with ADHD, I can say it's nearly impossible for me to read a post split up into tweets like this. Too many comments between each post. [edit] someone posted https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1135354815259656192.html https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1135354815259656192.html elsewhere in the comments, and this is perfectly readable for me.

cmroanirgo 7y ago

> Not to humblebrag or anything, but my favorite part of getting posted on hackernews or reddit is that EVERY SINGLE TIME there's one highly-ranked reply that's "jesus man, this could have been a blog post! why make 20 tweets when you can make one blog post?" > CAUSE I CAN'T MAKE A BLOG POST, GOD DAMN IT. I have ADHD. I have bad ADHD that is being treated, and the treatment is NOT WORKING TERRIBLY WELL. I cannot focus on writing blog posts. it will not happen. > if I try to make a blog post, it'll end up being abandoned and unfinished, as I am unable to edit it into something readable and postable. so if I went 100% to blogs: You would get: no content I would get: lots of unfinished drafts and a feeling of being a useless waste > but I can do rambly tweet threads. they don't require a lot of attention for a long time, they don't have the endless editing I get into with blog posts, I can do them. I do them a bunch! They're just rambly and twitter, which some people don't like. > so given this is a choice between two options, I can either: 1. make rambly tweet-threads that some people hate and wish were blogs 2. make no blog posts > I am sorry that I am picking #1, but it's really best for everyone. ... and so on. So, it's apparently due to ADHD...

dang 7y ago

This is one of those subthreads that show how offtopicness is preserved under negation.