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An excuse to post my favorite RoShamBo scene ever: https://vimeo.com/210145683 https://vimeo.com/210145683 , from the show Patriot. (There's a lot of context t

An excuse to post my favorite RoShamBo scene ever: https://vimeo.com/210145683 https://vimeo.com/210145683 , from the show Patriot. (There's a lot of context that's missing but it's hopeless for me to try to explain it. I highly recommend the show.)

inflatableDodo 7y ago
That is great, I wonder if they memorised the sequence, had notes out of shot, were signalling to each other on the side away from the camera, or just did a lot of takes. This also gives me an excuse to post Lasse Gjertson's excellent short animation, 'Roshambo' - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGzdzRFftBc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGzdzRFftBc
- andreareina 7y ago
  Just guessing, but the scene is really well set-up for cues to be given from directly in front of the relevant actor.
chrisan 7y ago
I guess this shows my ignorance, I had no idea rock paper scissors was called this. I only knew of the South Park version http://southpark.cc.com/clips/103724/rochambeau http://southpark.cc.com/clips/103724/rochambeau
- sameyolo 7y ago
  I was trying to think how iocaine powder would help in this scenario when I clicked in. Shows how our vernacular was shaped a bit though.
simplisticAgain 7y ago
The outcome of the scene is weak. Coming in cold, I don't know why a detective would be interviewing a subject, but the natural disposition for any detective story is to have the guilty party resist questioning, and here we see a party offering resistance. To put the hero in the deepest hole possible shall maximize the climactic anticipation of their escape. If the police are heroic, a brilliant criminal will best them at every turn to build suspense. We see this here, and yet they dump it out on the ground. The unbelievable resistance to the interview is expended and the detective wins. For most of the game, the subject stalemates without even looking, but toward the end starts to peek. Then we see the winner emerge. This frames the police as counter and equal in supernatural powers of seeming clairevoyance. It even throws the comedy in the trash. It's not funny at that point. It ruins any underdog status and levels the playing field. Why do we want the police to have super powers? What fun is it to watch the hero play a game they stand a chance of winning?
lunias 7y ago
For an interesting roshambo variant take a look at: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/animal_world_2018 https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/animal_world_2018 or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiji_(manga) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiji_(manga)

inflatableDodo 7y ago

That is great, I wonder if they memorised the sequence, had notes out of shot, were signalling to each other on the side away from the camera, or just did a lot of takes. This also gives me an excuse to post Lasse Gjertson's excellent short animation, 'Roshambo' - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGzdzRFftBc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGzdzRFftBc

andreareina 7y ago
Just guessing, but the scene is really well set-up for cues to be given from directly in front of the relevant actor.

chrisan 7y ago

I guess this shows my ignorance, I had no idea rock paper scissors was called this. I only knew of the South Park version http://southpark.cc.com/clips/103724/rochambeau http://southpark.cc.com/clips/103724/rochambeau

sameyolo 7y ago
I was trying to think how iocaine powder would help in this scenario when I clicked in. Shows how our vernacular was shaped a bit though.

simplisticAgain 7y ago

The outcome of the scene is weak. Coming in cold, I don't know why a detective would be interviewing a subject, but the natural disposition for any detective story is to have the guilty party resist questioning, and here we see a party offering resistance. To put the hero in the deepest hole possible shall maximize the climactic anticipation of their escape. If the police are heroic, a brilliant criminal will best them at every turn to build suspense. We see this here, and yet they dump it out on the ground. The unbelievable resistance to the interview is expended and the detective wins. For most of the game, the subject stalemates without even looking, but toward the end starts to peek. Then we see the winner emerge. This frames the police as counter and equal in supernatural powers of seeming clairevoyance. It even throws the comedy in the trash. It's not funny at that point. It ruins any underdog status and levels the playing field. Why do we want the police to have super powers? What fun is it to watch the hero play a game they stand a chance of winning?

lunias 7y ago

For an interesting roshambo variant take a look at: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/animal_world_2018 https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/animal_world_2018 or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiji_(manga) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiji_(manga)