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I would say this is from personal experience based on lurking on CLL and a couple of dumb questions I asked on #lisp once. I don't really mind the CL community,
by dragonquest 16y ago
I would say this is from personal experience based on lurking on CLL and a couple of dumb questions I asked on #lisp once. I don't really mind the CL community, its just that the help starts once you've one (atleast, even the introductory one's) or a major chunk of one book down cold. After that they're really eager to show you the path.
Compare this with many other language communities, people regularly ask questions regarding where are the installer's kept which is answered with great politeness by some good netizen. The contrast only occurs that the benchmark of the CL community starts at a higher bar. Recently though, as I wrote in the blog post, even the big-name lisper's seem to guide newbie's to LispBox's URL or suggesting the command line to install SBCL on Ubuntu which certainly is making CL communities a fairly friendly place to be.
The #scheme guys are just amazing. So are the individual mailing lists of the implementation Racket. Somebody on #scheme actually held my hand (metaphorically) to clear my confusion as to which function is the "main" function where execution starts. I used code a little in C/C++/Java and was expecting a function named "main" even though I was testing individual functions from the DrScheme IDE's split window REPL.
- motxilo 16y agoI find rather amusing that lispers and schemers differ that much when it comes to lend a hand to people, especially when Scheme is a dialect of Lisp. Do lispers regard the poor schemers in an envious way just because tail-call optimization is part of the Scheme standard? :) No, seriously. Nowadays, it seems like people sometimes forget what they struggled with when they were learning the ropes of some technology.